It is not very often that I am envious of applications, especially free ones, that are available on the iPhone but lacking on the BlackBerry. Everyone now and again, however, a cool iPhone app comes out that I whish I had on my BlackBerry and it just so happens that TweetDeck for iPhone is one of them.
Don’t get me wrong, UberTwitter is an awsome Twitter client for the BlackBerry, however, I hope the folks over at TweetDeck get to working on a BlackBerry client soon.
You BlackBerry users crack me up. You dog the iPhone out until an application comes along that you can’t live without and then you wish you had one.
I don’t know why people think that I am against the iPhone. I bought one day one 2 years ago when the things first came out. This is not an Ohio State vs. Michigan or Cleveland Browns vs. Pittsburgh Steelers type debate. You can like one and also like the other. In my case, I just happen to like the BlackBerry more.
It is a cool app but it crashes a lot and needs to sync with the desktop client in the backround. I use a BlackBerry for work and have Ubertwitter on it and probably like it a little more. Tweetdeck also needs to have a landscape view cause it gets kind of hard to see stuff…
I want TweetDeck for the Palm Pre.
Yeah, he didn’t say he wished he had an i-phone, he said he liked the app on his BB. Huge difference there.
I agree with Robb- there are some people whose needs are better filled by the i-phone- I’m just not one of them. I love my Bold and it does what I need very well.
Get the iPhone. There is no comparison. RIM is doing well for now because its competitors like Palm are having financial problems. RIM is arrogant and layered in bureaucracy /red tape. Its well known they taken several months to hire, do not reimburse for interview travel etc. Its only a matter of time . Companies who are arrogant see decline (SUN and Palm ) are classic examples. Besides, the iPhone is far superior.
Yea, and of course everybody knows Apple isn’t arrogant… or their kool aide drinkers…
Seven reasons why BlackBerrys are better than IPhones
September 3, 2:51 PMDallas BlackBerry ExaminerChris Esparza
We have to be honest with each other. People are going to compare them. It’s inevitable. BlackBerrys and IPhones are the two greatest things to happen to the mobile communications world since two cans were tied to a string and people will always compare the two of them based on their opinions and a few facts that are twisted to their advantage. I offer you my very own list of reasons that I believe makes the BlackBerry a superior device over the IPhone.
7. More Hardware Variety
Don’t like touch screen? That’s ok. Want a full Qwerty keyboard? We’ve got that. How bout the love-it or hate-it SureType keyboard? We invented it. Flip? Yep. Slider? That’s rumored to be coming pretty soon. RIM knows its customers like variety and they offer it in leaps and bounds.
6. More Carrier Variety
Apple made an exclusive deal with AT&T which puts their “Jesus Phone” on their network and their network alone. RIM does the complete opposite and offers different models of their phones on nearly every carrier worldwide.
5. Removable Battery
I’ve stated before that the lifespan of most Lithium-Ion batteries is typically a year and a half to two years, with several extenuating circumstances. Once that battery is done with, pay X amount of dollars to have it replaced or get a new phone.
4. Longer Shelf Life
Apple cuts itself with a double-edged sword sometimes. On the one hand, they’ve released a new device every June so they can stay ahead of the technological curve. On the other hand, if you’re caught carrying around the first generation IPhone nowadays, you’re practically stoned by society. With the BlackBerry, all you need is an OS update, maybe an app or two, and your device will work just as well and do just as many things as some of the newer devices. I currently use a Pearl 8100, and besides having a few limitations because of different hardware shortcomings (video, wifi, etc) my device runs smoothly and perfectly. And that’s after nearly two years of nonstop use and abuse.
3. MMS Capability
Yes I know the 3GS added MMS capability to the IPhone, but AT%T was kind enought to block that for some reason. Yes I know. There’s an app for that. And of course, yes I know if you have a jailbroken and/or unlocked IPhone, you are able to send MMS. Well guess how much special setup and time it takes on a BlackBerry before you can send a picture or some sound to someone? None! It’s a feature that was built into the phone as soon as the 8100 came out several years ago, before the IPhone was even released!
2. Better Security
There’s not much reason to get too much into this. Apple will be hard pressed to compete with RIM’s security measures. They are still the best when it comes to corporate emails, firewalls, servers, and all that other stuff I honestly don’t completely understand anymore.
1. Run Multipile Applications at Once
This is another one of those double-edged swords that Apple gave itself. Sure, on the one hand, only running one app at a time is a great way to save battery. However, let’s say I hypothetically want to search for movie times and then send those times to a friend in a text message. To do that I have to first open up my app of choice to find the times, locate the theater and time, memorize them, (or use Copy/Paste if I have the latest OS, even though Copy/Paste has been available on the BlackBerry for years and didn’t need a huge national event to announce it, but we won’t get into that here) close the app, open up a text message, type it all in, (or paste) and then send. Let’s just hope I didn’t get any of the info wrong though. Because then I would have to repeat the whole process from the start. Phew I sure am glad I saved a little bit of battery power!
This blog was out before the iPhone came out. If the BlackBerry was so great why would did you ever buy an iPhone in the first place?
I find it hard to blelieve that anyone who puts the BlackBerry against the iPhone could honestly say that the BlackBerry is better.
I have used BOTH the iPhone (1st Gen) and the BlackBerry Curve. The reason I switched was not issues with the iPhone itself, but with AT&T. I personally do believe that the BlackBerry is a better device, for several reasons. Without use of apps, I can send pictures (taken with a flash for better quality) or video through MMS. On my BlackBerry I can edit auto-correct settings on my phone to fix my personal errors. On the iPhone I had to hope the auto-correct was the CORRECT one, and if not, still had to backspace to fix it. Having long fingernails it is MUCH easier to type on the BlackBerry than to hope I don’t make a mistake on the smooth surface of the iPhone. These are just a few reasons why I’m on the side of BlackBerrys are better.
For you Apple fans, I will say that until I first tried a BlackBerry I was totally with you on “how can the BB be better?” It just didn’t make sense. You have to be open minded and give other things a chance before you can truly know what’s better.
@iPhoneRulz
What in the world does that have to do with wanting Tweetdeck, cool application by the way, to come out on the BlackBerry?
I am a die-hard BlackBerry user but I have to admit, TweetDeck for iPhone is a pretty sweet app. I installed it last week on my iPod Touch. I agree with Jezz though… They need to fix the random reboots…
It has everything to do with it. If the BlackBerry was the end all be all device, you know, kinda like the iPhone, why would someone who blogs about BlackBerrys all day go out and buy an iphone? Because the BlackBerry is lacking. This is why there are so many more BlackBerry users switching from the BlackBerry to the iPhone than the other way around. The BlackBerry is a dying brand.
I want TweetDeck on my BlackBerry too. I have to use a BlackBerry for work so switching to the iPhone isn’t really an option, not that I would switch just to get a cool Twitter client.
This iPhone vs Blackberry debate is getting a bit childish.
I think Robb is like most technology lovers. You just love technology for it being new and different technology. The same way you have a iPod….you would buy the Zune HD. Or maybe we can relate to cameras, or TV, or operating systems. I think we all like the shiny new tech. Each device has it benefits. You just need to exercise a bit of common sense. Unless you own a boat load of stock in either company you have no vested interest. Apple, RIM, Microsoft, Google, and Palm all make great technology and offer something a bit different. Lets just enjoy that and move on.
I have a blackberry for work as well. iPhone is not an option plus I jsut have not had good success with AT&T in my use. TweetDeck for BB would be excellent.
“It is not very often that I am envious of applications, especially free ones, that are available on the iPhone but lacking on the BlackBerry”
Yeah ok….. Better get used to it as it’s crystal clear which platform has the app’s and the coders eye’s.
” Apple, RIM, Microsoft, Google, and Palm all make great technology”
Uhhhh now your going a little to far….. M$haft? Palm? “great technolgy” HA
Thanks Robb I’ll check out the TweetDeck app on the iPhone.
hey iPhoneRulz,
here’s a question b’rah: why in sam-hell is a degenerate iPhone neophite such as yourself trolling around an “all things blackberry” site? hmm, could it be you who is envious of blackberry and not the other way around? whatever load of cowdung steve and the rest of his communists at apple places on their collective platinum shovels, you pee-brained guppies will just gobble it up every time!! apple owns you losers and you know it! hey, here’s a relatively simple question that even a sheep such as yourself can answer? what can an iPhone do that a blackberry “cannot” do…tick tock…exactly, you loser! how about i present the question the other way around…”still” no MMS because you’re on a loser of a carrier (lol) still cannot run multiple applications at once, still doesn’t have a proper push system . now you jerks want to act all high and mighty because you “just got” video recording? a “half decent” camera? copy and freaking paste? push notifications? a decent landscape option for that crappy virtual keyboard? name another smartphone that hasn’t had all these basic feature since like, oh i don’t know FOREVER! steve whispers in your ears, “hush my children, you don’t need those things…” and you all just sop it up like the filthy little pigs that you are…oh but wait steve realizes that blackberry users “are” blackberry users because of said elementary features and all of a sudden it’s, “sike! we were just kidding around, you do need those things after all…” and all the little sheep applaud in unison as their MASTER tells them what’s what. apple is the biggest fraud of a product since the pet rock. whatever stupid little app, that comes out for the apple can easily be developed for “any” other phone as well – if apps are the iphone’s only claim to fame, it is a pathetic device that is solely reliant upon software and software “alone”. stay off of these boards you loser!
Although I don’t really agree with iPhoneRulz, they never did resort to name calling or personal attacks when making their point. Seeing how you’ve violated 2 of the 3 rules Robb has for commentators, I am guessing your banter will be deleted once a moderator takes a look at it, however, to respond to the one question that you asked, I paraphrase… Why would an iPhone user comment on a blackberry blog?
Because the editorial style posts on this particular blackberry blog are very entertaining and often cry for dissenting opinions which the author of the blog welcomes.
We adults generally call this good conversation…
Amen to that…
Omar,
Not cool. Show others respect, no need for name calling, Rimarkable is about devices not for you to post your thoughts about others who have a different opinion than you. Rimarkable is not a place for you to take cheap shots at others while you prove just how much you don’t know.
Not cool.
People will dump their Crackberry for an iPhone
http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/42958/145/
“And iPhone users appear to be far happier with their machines than Blackberry users are, according to the survey.”
Omar proves this point.
But it also proves why tweetdeck and other app’s are being developed for the iPhone platform and not the others.
I concede the point that iPhone users are extremely loyal, however, the number of BlackBerry users that have switched back to the BlackBerry after initially moving to the iPhone is significant and telling. Additionaly, a large percentage of BlackBerry users wanting to move to the iPhone are Sprint customers who have gone almost 2 years without a new device.
I personally went from the BlackBerry to the iPhone then back to the BlackBerry. I now have a BlackBerry Bold, which I love, and an iPod touch. The applications on the iPhone / iPod touch are second to none and the form and function of the BlackBerry is unmatched.
Each device has its pluses and minuses and I don’t think either one is going to knock the other out of the game anytime soon.
To get back to the point topic of the original post, I hear it on good authority that mobile TweetDeck clients for other smartphones, including the BlackBerry, are underway…
Ha! Let me break it down like this: Being an adult does not coincide with stripping trolls down to their essentials whenever I deem it necessary – such is the beauty of having a voice and expressing it however and whenever I see fit – This is the beauty of an editorial style of writing – They are “my” opinions.
If, in my opinion I feel that iPhone users are generally a flock of mindless sheep, then that is just my opinion. No one has to like it, but it is the truth as I have observed it for iPhone users. Hey, for that worthless study conducting by “no doubt” iPhone zombies, of course iPhone users are happy – “group think” is far less challenging than individual thinking.
We all have our opinions; mine are just much more abrasive. I truly believe that iPhone yuppies are mindless, sheep-like in their tendencies, and wholly myopic! I don’t post regularly and I’m surprised that my posts is still here to be honest! I’m aware of discussion board rules and I knew “before” I wrote my message that it would deleted – I simply do not care.
I check a great number of BB sites just to stay abreast – I saw some iPhone dude behaving as they usually behave, i.e., “superior” and decided to cut lose! That’s what I do, I respected his opinion, no matter how wrong it was, and then I shared mine with both barrels blazing! Finally, someone who is free from pretense has decided to post. I’ll leave you all to your “CIVIL” discussions. Oh by the way, I’m civil when I need to be; in this case, I had ZERO intentions on being civil – It was a seek and destroy post!
Ok ok ok…for us BlackBerry owners we can actually be happy to know that there is a great Twitter BlackBerry client called TweetGenius which I happen to use every single day. It may not be free, but it isn’t expensive either. The interface is attractive, smooth and the features are plenty.
Check it out at http://www.thetweetgenius.com. I couldn’t be more happy with my purchase.
By the way, it’s from Boy Genius! http://www.boygeniusreport.com
Omar,
Again not cool.
Get a clue, your style of personal “opinions” are not acceptable here. Name calling has nothing to do with RIMarkable or the topics being discussed here. It’s not your place to posts opinions or name call others who’s posts you can’t handle.
You knowingly spam someone’s web site?
“I’m aware of discussion board rules and I knew “before” I wrote my message that it would deleted – I simply do not care.”
and
“I had ZERO intentions on being civil – It was a seek and destroy post!”
In addition to proving you haven’t a clue about much, you also prove you have no respect for others or our host Robb.
Show others respect, there is no need for name calling, Rimarkable is about mobile devices not for you to post your desperate thoughts about others who have a different opinion than you. Rimarkable is not a place for you to take cheap shots at others while you prove just how much you don’t know.
Thanks for making BB users look bad.
Not cool.
Check this out: A recent poll was conducted byGallop and the result stated that 97.3% of Americans do in fact find me pretty freaking awesome!!
OK, hmm, must stick to devices, must stick to devices….This is a very difficult thing to do, when judging style over substance. The iPhone, as it has existed did not even remotely compare to Blackberries in their list of functions (closer with 3GS, but not quite there) – This is a fact.
How can anyone discuss these two devices, which are always compared with one another when iPhone users’ only argument is, “the iPhone is just better”…”the iPhone is cooler”…”the blackberry is boring”…”the blackberry is ugly”…”the blackberry is a dying breed”…see what I mean?
Show me an iPhone user who is brave enough to place the iPhone against the Blackberry and discuss “what the phones are capable of doing” and then your reply will make sense, because of now it does not. I respond to the nature of iPhone guys defense of their device, which is all fluff, and no stuff.
“I’ll leave you all to your “CIVIL” discussions”
Where have we heard those wise words before?
Please explain this extensive list of magical functions that the BB does but the iPhone doesn’t do. This is just another poor, desperate, jealous attempt to try to claim “fact” however the word to those who know better is fiction. Better to listen, learn and understand that the iPhone has closed and in some ways surpassed the BB magic functions gap.
“The iPhone, as it has existed did not even remotely compare to Blackberries in their list of functions (closer with 3GS, but not quite there) – This is a fact.”
The iPhone is a handheld computer all the “facts” are out there if you look at the spec’s. There is no hiding, there are 21.17 million (as of Q2 2009) “brave” iPhone users which put the iPhone up against the other devices out there and bought the iPhone, heck last weekend alone 1 million plus smartphone users chose the iPhone 3GS as their smartphone. Those numbers more than prove that the iPhone platform is more than capable.
The only “fluff” is the tired, desperate, and always proven wrong argument that the iPhone is not capable of personal and corporate business. The only “fluff” is the tired, desperate, and always proven wrong argument that the iPhone somehow doesn’t meet or far surpass the functions of every other smartphone out there. Not bad for a Apple device which has only just passed it’s 2 year mark on the market, and since 1/2007 has completely changed the smartphone industry for the better, even if the Blackberry or another device is what you chose to use. Lucky for everyone the smartphone industry brings decent options, choice is good, on the other hand ignorance is not.
Alas, you do have a pulse – Your spirited response is dually noted! However, I ask again: WHAT CAN THE iPHONE DO THAT THE BLACKBERRY CANNOT DO…? It is a very simple question – Achieving an entirely different user experience does not mean a blackberry or other capable smart phones are INCAPABLE of achieving the same thing.
iPhone zealots have this thought in their collective brains that the device is so revolutionary that it enables users to accomplish tasks the likes of which smart phones have never known. You liken the iPhone to a handheld computer…pffft, when last I checked, a computer enables users to perform more than one task at a time…
Many of your so-called statistics mean absolutely nothing – It only shows that the iPhone is a “CULTURAL” phenomenon…that is the long and the short of it. This isn’t anything new or unique – Compare automobiles such as The original Mustang in the 1960’s…It wasn’t revolutionary, it was only popular because of a captivating design, brilliant marketing and buzz…Ultimately there wasn’t much under the hood compared to much more capable muscle cars of the era.
This is the iPhone today, “all fluff and no stuff”…if the iPhone was so great prior to the recent upgrade, why the need to finally add the things that iPhone users were originally convinced otherwise? The blackberry has NEVER gone without elementary functions such as, copy/paste, video capture, and push notifications “that DON’T block your entire view…”…I have always preferred subtlety over some GINORMOUS window popping up like the boogeyman…
The iPhone is a toy when compared to the Blackberry. Nevertheless, everyone likes to play…can the Blackberry play? Hmm, let’s see…
Video Format Support: DivX, XviD (MPEG4 Advance Simple Profile), H.263, WMV3
Audio Format Support: .3gp, WAV, MIDI, AMR-NB, G711u/A, GSM610, PCM, MP3, AAC/AAC+/eAAC+, WMA9/10 Standard/Pro …synchronizing of iTunes no problem!
Best speaker on the planet: check!
Beautiful screen resolution: How’s 480×360 grab ‘ya?
Camera: 3.2 MP camera (JPEG Encoding) with Auto focus, Image stabilization, Flash and 2X Digital Zoom
Video Camera: Normal Mode: 240×180 pixel, MMS Mode: 176×144 pixel
GPS: TRUE GPS, not aGPS
WiFi: Been there done that
Gaming: Yes…but the nod goes to the iPhone in user experience…for now.
SMS: Yes
MMS: Yes…welcome to the club iPhone guy…tell AT&T to speed things up so you can actually use it…
Total OS integration and harmony among all applications: Yes
Runs multiple applications: Yes…must…resist…going…there. Oh to hell with it, why make a faster iPhone that only accomplishes one task at a time? Power users, such as myself frequently go back and forth (hold down menu button and switch apps on BB…Palms WebOS does the same thing but is cooler with the card experience) between applications.
I may want to browse one second, and update my FB status the next sec, twitter the next second; but wait I still have a word doc that I’m working on…hmm, let’s go back to that. Why would apple believe that this would not be a convenience? My phone has 256MB of device memory (more than the Bold) and runs multiple applications perfectly. The only thing the iPhone can do is continuously play music in the background…sorry, but that simply will not do.
Does the iPhone have a better browser than the Blackberry? Yes it does. The G1, Palm Pre and the iPhone’s browsers were developed with the awesomeness that is webkit. However, there are third party browsers to be had until RIM swallows their pride and utilizes webkit themselves. This is my point…it isn’t as though Blackberries “can’t” do the things that this so-called revolutionary device “can” do…it’s just a different user experience.
For instance, I use The Bolt browser and sometimes, Opera mini, which are insanely fast compared to Blackberry’s archaic browser. Skyfire (the “only” flash, real, quicktime, silverlight, etc browser, which fully enables in-browser media, is currently in alpha development for the blackberry – when all else fails…”there’s an app for it…” LOL, couldn’t resist that one.
My point is this: there isn’t a single solitary thing that a blackberry cannot do that an iPhone can do. This is the reason why Blackberry continues to have a stranglehold in the business sector and why many Blackberry users who resist style over substance will not switch unless iPhone offers them something that we do not currently have. Also of note, RIM is most profitable among all device manufacturers for a reason…I didn’t quite see that statistic when you decided to run your numbers…
WOW, desperation sets in while grasping at and spinning any and every spec.
“there isn’t a single solitary thing that a blackberry cannot do that an iPhone can do.” (which is a complete lie in itself) Just more of the fud, ignorance, rude and childish crude personal shots started 06.22.09 at 10:51 pm. Does making things up somehow make someone feel better about the blackberry? Don’t be jealous of iPhone users, everyone has the ability to own the industry leading smartphone.
Thanks for making BB users look bad.
Not cool.
….well, what can an iPhone do, that a blackberry cannot do…? I await your response with bated breath….
….OK, I will slow it down for you…here goes:
what….can….an….iPhone….do….that….a….blackberry…..cannot….do…?
omar does have a point though.
the only answer that an iphone user has to that question is “all the games”
hahaha. it’s okay.
iPhone = good for watching stupid youtube videos
BlackBerry = great SMARTphone
yes the platform for iPhone is great…we know…it’s so great that’s why the number one app was the iFart. Yea real f@cking productive while the battery dies by 11am but at leas tit’s an apple you’re considered to be “cool” cuz you are against whatever the f@ck you’re against…conventional whatever your god steve jobs says.
adobe air software works really well with iphone platform. great. doesn’t make me want to cough up the money for it. and about that so called report about people are happier with an iphone? do you actually have demographics for that survey?
are you sure that report is not a bs report and it did not take a survey of 16 year olds who could care less about tasks application or calendar instead of being able to susan boyle on youtube and twitter and sexting?
give me a f’in break
…funny – Even funnier, is that we also have the ability to watch “stupid” youtube videos via WAP….and now iPhone user in the immortal words of Nelson Muntz, “Haaa ha!”
I thought this weblog was supposed to be for RIM devices, if we cared about iPhone and the like we would have gone to pinstack.com or the apple forums…
I stumbled upon this site while trying to figure out what the largest email i could send from my Pearl 8110 was and I think all the posturing and name calling is perfect for a bunch of over-charged egotistical neophytes that have been posting here for some time…
Can any of the truely educated RIM users tell me- sans puffyness and hurt feelings and bleeding hearts:
How large can the body and attachment of an email be to send over a BIS connection (non-wifi device)
don’t be envious .. just be patient .. http://www.tweeteev.com is coming out this week coming !
Ok look I read a lot. Of what was on here and I gotta say, I just got ma BB and I wanted a iPhone n the 1st place. I went to go look at it and loved it BUT AT&T wanted me to pay 700 down marked up from 100 in two days! So I settled for a BB and I honestly can say I’m glad I did. Somebody already made the point tht they both do.the same things which is why I opted for the BB inspead of some other fone. Plus tha BB was cheaper anyway and no down payment wit Verizon.The iPhone is a lil flashier but the orginization on ther BB is waaaaay diffrent, more busness orriented. I don’t use it for busness but I do have a lot goin on in ma life and its helpful to have a fone tht can remember the stuff I can’t and tht is more durable. I’m not a diehard BB fan or iPhone fan. Which one u like better all depends on your needs and tastes.
I know I’m 6 months late to the party. I don’t care. I stumbled here looking for tweetdeck for the blackberry. By the way people. Why is it that people only compare tweetdeck to the other Twitter apps available? The entire reason I want tweetdeck is it connects to MORE than just Twitter. UberTwitter is a fine app.. but it ONLY…. DOES…. TWITTER. I want one app for updating 5 sites at once. Not 5 apps for taking me 20 minutes to do this.
Anyway.. For those iPhone users that insist that the iPhone is just as good as a BlackBerry in every respect let me say this. I owned a second gen iPhone for 6 months. That was 5 months too long. Heck, I even paid my cancellation fee and paid cash for a BlackBerry Bold because the iPhone was so poor at being a secure enterprise level device. Those of you that think it competes I offer the following challenge:
Do a google search for BlackBerry Enterprise Server. Then read what it does. Then come back here and tell me that the iPhone even holds a candle to the BlackBerry. If you can find a way to make the iPhone usable in a corporate environment I’ll switch back in a heartbeat. I do love my Bold, but I miss the touchscreen and I HATE having to do battery pulls every day and having a battery that only lasts me until lunch time. (Oh yeah.. I USE my phone for much more than a status symbol)
so…
do any of you actually know when the app. is coming out or are you just shooting the breeze!