Will We See A Verizon BlackBerry Curve This Month?

by Robb Dunewood on March 3, 2008 · 127 comments

Back in May of last year we wrote a post asking how long will it take for Verizon to release the BlackBerry Curve, and, 462 comments later, the conversation on that post is going as strong as ever.

There are rumors floating around that Verizon may come with the CDMA BlackBerry Curve as soon as the end of this month, however, I am still going with some right around WES, about a month later.

I know many RIMarkable readers just don’t understand why Verizon subscribers would stick with a company that doesn’t offer the phones that they want up to a year after they come out on GSM networks in some cases. The comments, however, in this particular post, which seem to have been picking up steam as of late, give some insight intto the minds of Verizon subscribers who are upset that they can’t get the BlackBerry Curve, but, rely on Verizon’s network so much that they don’t feel they can switch, or, in some cases, switch back after leaving to get the GSM Curve.

I am not saying that they are right or wrong, misguided or misinformed. I am saying that I understand. As millions of Verizon subscribers believe, I think that Verizon has the best network out there and that it is so much better than the competitions that we are willing to forgo new devices on GSM carriers. Verizon, however, needs to take note. I also believe that many of these “loyal” Verizon subscribers would switch in a heartbeat to a GSM carrier the moment they feel like the GSM networks have the network coverage and speed of Verizon’s network.

It’s a dangerous game you play Verizon. If T-Mobile or AT&T upgrades their networks to 3G everywhere and fill in the coverage gaps that they are notorious for having before you either move to LTE or convince manufactures to come out with CDMA devices at a faster pace, you could see your earnings shrink faster than Sprints.

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  • Marcus Aurelius

    Smurfette,

    I’m surprised you dared to post that VZW was better service for you than AT&T. Obviously you have not read any other threads about the Curve or Verizon on this message board or you would know that hellno does not allow anyone to claim they get better service with VZW. THAT IS NOT AN OPTION! YOU MUST GET BETTER SERVICE or at least the same with AT&T.

    Even though there are millions of customers across the US who will agree with you, that VZW is the best option for them, he will attack you and call you an ignorant fanboy or even better, his favorite term, you are FUD’ing, (whatever the hell that is).

    I had pretty much stopped reading this message board and have moved to Howard’s Forum because hellno isn’t there. He has ruined this site and I’m surprised Robb let’s him continue to drive away readers with his relentless attacks against reason and sanity.

    Good luck Smurfette, you are going to need it against the wrath of hellno.

    By the way, I agree with you 100%. Same situation in my area. AT&T is not a player at all with no service to speak of. VZW is the best for me.

    Marcus

  • Marcus Aurelius

    Here is some news on the consumer friendly company AT&T that our resident troll iphone fanboy brags about all the time:

    “AT&T announced a settlement with the Florida Attorney General’s office regarding third-party ringtones that were advertised as free, but were billed to end users. AT&T will reimburse customers who were charged for the ringtones. The ringtones were advertised as free fraudulently by third-party providers. After the ringtones were downloaded, users were charged for the cost of the ringtone by AT&T per its agreements with the third-party providers. In addition to the reimbursements, AT&T has to pay the state of Florida $2.5 million and another $500,000 toward consumer education on safe Internet use. It says it has since put protective measures in place to prevent customers from being mis-led about billing.”

  • Ben P

    @Marcus A:

    I know why he “lets” him continue… look at the other posts on this topic… some are up to 400+ comments!! Must do wonders for ad-views!

    At first I was angered by him, but now it’s easier just to ignore him.

    heh. imagine if everyone started posting randomly under the name “hellno” Imagine the chaos!!

  • bluehorseshoe

    @ Marcus,

    Actually, over 65 million CDMA loving idiots like myself agree with Smurfette and yourself by choosing VZW for the sole purpose of better coverage in our areas. I stress idiots because hellno is about to give us the FACTS, TRUTH, and no FUD about the way it is and should be. Be prepared for multiple, usless links to blogs and companies that make assessments but only staff 2 people.

  • Thought

    I agree that while Verizon may not be the most consumer friendly, overall it has the best network. I also agree that most people do not care about the technicality of what system their phone runs one, whether GSM or CDMA or whatever, just that it works. On that score VZW wins for now.

    Now that may change; ATT certainly has the resources to close the gap with VZW. But for now there is one advantage a VZW curve will have over an ATT one, and that is the coverage. There are simply many places where VZW works and ATT isn’t quite up to the same level.

  • NV

    hellno said:

    “You would also do much better if you too don’t worry about what others post. IF you think verizon is better for you, it’s better for YOU, it doesn’t mean the other providers are not just as good if not better. You will learn your roll. It’s interesting TRUTH and FACTS hurt only ignorant fanboys.”

    Um…this is a forum for discussion is it not? So why would I do better if I didn’t worry about what others post? That would make the idea of a forum irrelevant, thus making everything a monologue and not a dialogue – get it?

    Secondly, I NEVER made the statement that other providers weren’t as good or better, I always stated that FOR ME, VZ is better. So thanks for twisting my words around to try and make it look like something it wasn’t. I can only speak for myself, so when I talk about something being “better”, I would assume anyone with half a brain would understand I was referring to myself…that explains why you didn’t get it I guess.

    TRUTH and FACTS only hurt ignorant fanboys huh? This is a peculiar statement coming from someone who has portrayed themselves as the most ignorant of all post after post. C’mon, the majority can’t be the ones who are wrong. There’s even posts on Howard’s forum mentioning what a kook you are. But I guess we’re all wrong, and you’re right? I’m sure.

    Oh and that’s “fangirl” by the way.

  • hellno

    Sorry Marcus Aurelius unlike you, Smurfette knows how to post with class, guess your mom lifted your grounding from the computer tonight? If not that perhaps your feeling a desperate need for attention, why not come to RIMarkable with the other few, sad ignorant verizon fanboys and thread crap some more.

    It must be so tough for you sad few who are also verizon customers when the TRUTH and FACTS are posted about a corporation which you pay to provide you service only to learn REALITY about them. Whats good is most adult’s who are in the know, take the information for what it is, a post on a web site to learn about or not. There is no need to kick and scream, there is no need to FUD, there is no need to post BS at others (like you have, and are getting back exactly what you first gave with interest) just because the TRUTH and FACTS are posted about a corporation. Boo Hoo no Curve for cdma yet, it should surprise no one, it’s standard practice when it comes to RIM’s product release cycles. If you can’t handle lack of devices then better look at another service provider at least till verizon upgrades to GSM/LTE, then and only then will verizon customers get wireless devices on par, and at the same time as the rest of the globe. No need for the piss poor behavior, you can blame others for your thread craps, but it’s clear to the rest of us here at RIMarkable there are a sad few ignorant verizon fanboys here who can’t handle TRUTH and FACTS and lash out when they can’t distort or spin REALITY.

    Sorry vealots ya get what you gave….

  • NV

    Then hellno said:

    “Nope no mention of cdma here… Keep on crying and FUDing girls….”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BlackBerry_Curve

    Ok, you’re eclectic vocabulary (haha) would lead me to believe you have some book smarts, but that post above shows me exactly what kind of deformed logic you’re workign with. Only someone with a complete lack of common sense would refer to Wikipedia as a reliable source of information. Wikipedia articles are put together by people on the internet, did you know that? Why would anyone posting on wikipedia have information to post about a CDMA BB curve, that know one else has? It’s hysterical to me, because if it was the case that there was a CDMA curve mentioned for VZ in a wiki entry, and I posted about it – you would automatically write it off as internet rumors and “IGNORANT, GRANDSTANDING FUD”.

  • hellno

    NV,

    This IS a discussion forum, but NOT a forum to discuss your thoughts on others, something others in your sad few group have yet to also figure out. IE your 3rd paragraph not only goes against your own guidance for others, it’s also a thread crap. Your first 2 paragraphs cool, your opinions, no grandstanding, no opinions of others. Then you decide to take a few personal shots at someone who didn’t call you out on anything (at least not till that action by you) But that how it goes with the sad few, they grandstand they FUD and then they take pot shots at others. Fellow posters post TRUTH and FACTS, back them up with links and explaination, thats when the sad few feel the need to ignore, FUD, Spin and atack those posting REALITY which seems to be unacceptable to vealots.

    If knowledge is power, then the sad few here show ignorance with every thread crapping BS post.

    Oh there are posts on “Howards forum”? surprise surprise, thats another place which has even more ignorant verizon fanboys than here. Yes all the TRUTH and FACTS posted have been backed up so yes since you bring it up, yes the sad few ignorant verizon here at RIMarkable are not only “all wrong”, they also show themselves as people who can’t handle REALITY. Poor verizon fanboys. verizon cripples their blackberries and hellno tells them the TRUTH here at RIMarkable. Now THATS discussion!

  • hellno

    NV,
    “because if it was the case that there was a CDMA curve mentioned for VZ in a wiki entry, and I posted about it – you would automatically write it off as internet rumors and “IGNORANT, GRANDSTANDING FUD”.

    No others wouldn’t get the chance since you’d have already done it to yourself.

    FACTS before verizon fanboy fiction.

  • hellno

    Sorry my mistake make that “fangirl” fiction :) It’s cool to have your choice. Whats not cool is to post calling others out and then not expecting the same treatment in return. Esp. when the person is being called out for posting the TRUTH and the FACTS.

  • LP

    This is absolutely the WORST CDMA/VZW Curve thread on any website so far. Could it be because not even half of it is regarding the Curve?

    Hellno, you are completely disrespectful to anyone that visits here actually looking info regarding the DEVICE itself. It’s a shame really. And you people that reply to him are no better yourselves. The more you guys respond to him the more he is going to spew his anti-VZW garbage over and over and over and over again.

    JUST IGNORE HIM! Geez…is it that hard?

    Hellno, answer however you want to this post. There is nothing you can say that will change my mind from the fact that you ruin every article you post in.

    Oh yeah, and I’m not replying to anything you say because it will just force more garbage out of your mouth.

    And hellno’s worthless response in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1….

  • hellno

    Yeah LP your internet posting skill games are going to take care of things huh? NOPE.
    Interesting “This is absolutely the WORST CDMA/VZW Curve thread on any website so far.” yet you fail to add any new information too? But instead feel the need to thread crap and show others you want to be posted about and called out when others post? hmmm must be the rumored device still has very little information, and sadly a small group of ignorant verizon fanboys would are upset at not having the choice of the Curve for their provider and get even more upset when they are shown the FACTS, TRUTH, and REALITY about what their service provider does to cripple their blackberries.

  • bluehorseshoe

    Preach on LP. It’s just ridiculous now. Ruins it for everyone.

    I’m thinking now of getting the Curve when it comes out and giving it a whirl and putting my Pearl in ‘semi-retirement’. If I can’t get used to it, then I’ll just go back to the Pearl. I have to say the Pearl is the longest I’ve held on to any phone…had it since day one with TMO. 18 months is a good run…at least for me.

  • LP

    Ahh. Hellno, while I won’t reply to your garbage, I will reply and discuss your comment ACTUALLY ABOUT the Curve. These are ALL confirmed FACTS that have been known about VZW’s Curve for a little now:

    - Release is targeted in April with VZW pushing for late March.

    - It does have GPS, but the test versions so far have all been locked to VZ Navigator.

    - It will not be WiFi capable.

    - The release color scheme will be the same as the color above. This has been confirmed that while there may be other colors, this will be the release color.

    - In terms of size, it is as identical to the GSM version as CDMA can get.

    - This will not be a World Edition Device.

    - It will be EVDO capable, but it is not known/has not been posted yet whether it will be REV A.

    - The exact pricing is not known/has not been posted yet.

    - It is, of course, QWERTY.

    - It will be high capacity micro SD capable.

    This is all FACT. Verizon’s Curve is far from a rumor so find other reasons to bash it. I used to work in VZW Corporate and I still have a lot of friends in a lot of different positions that provide me with info. If you want to question my reputation as someone very knowledgable, here is some reference:

    http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1273487

    and

    http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1333302&page=1&pp=15

    PM any of the VZW mods on there if you’d like to question how genuine my info is. I’ve been posting on there for over 5 years. You will find a plethora of info posted by various insiders on there.

    If you want to take the “That’s not official information route” then just wait 2-3 weeks.

  • LP

    Be warned. The first link, while hefty, is a good read and follows the Curve from November (even though VZW has been planning on releasing it since at least September 2007).

  • LP

    And “The release color scheme will be the same as the color above. This has been confirmed that while there may be other colors, this will be the release color.” comment was made regarding it’s original post. The picture in the original post above that was the “titanium” colored Curve. Sorry for any confusion.

  • Ben P

    PhoneArena has an expected Sprint date of April 16 for the Curve (link at the end)… doesnt Verizon USUALLY get Blackberries before them? How much lead time do they get generally?

    Maybe this is an exception… maybe Sprint will get it first…

  • Ben P

    …the link decided not to work… lets try again…

    http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/RIM-BlackBerry-Curve-phone-p_2648.html

  • NV

    Thanks for the post, LP. I read your post about this on Howard’s forums too. Very helpful and insightful. I’m excited to see what happens…

  • NV

    Rep stated 2nd quarter – which is anywhere from April to July if it’s true.

  • bdg

    Very well written Robb. They (Verizon) will indead see a mass exidous, if any of the other carriers fill in the gaps…

  • CD

    I agree entirely with what this post is saying. As a Verizon customer, with an unlimited data contract, I am sick of being lied to, screwed, and forking over extra cash to Verizon for crippled BB’s. Verizon is playing a *very* dangerous game. Yes, their network coverage is great. But that’s it. 1/2 of the BB’s in the global company I work for are on Verizon, the other 1/2 are on AT&T. AT&T’s network sucks, but then again, the AT&T BB’s have GPS, and full Bluetooth functionality. If the 3G’s could get their collective act together to improve network coverage, I’d jump ship in a heart beat, as would most of the other BB users on Verizon that I know and screw the early termination fee and Verizon can kiss the revenue from myself and my employer goodbye. *CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?*

  • http://www.segwayofscottsdale.com Greenglider

    Thanks everyone for posting info about the release date and details. I worked for Bell Atlantic Mobile under the CellularOne name and saw our property sold off to Alltel. I found a new job after a few months of conference calls with the Good Old Boys in Arkansas. The day I left I signed up with VZW, seven years later I am still a customer. They take care of me like I am their best customer, that’ s reason #1 for staying. #2 is the network- it’s great, and that’s all that matters. Reason #3 is- when I talk to other people on VZW- calls are crystal- even on older phones. When I talk to friends on other networks, specifically TMO and AT&T, they sound H-O-R-R-I-B-L-E. I would be embarrassed to be on a business call with someone if I knew I sounded that bad. But who really cares about what I think about my cell phone company- it’s my money, so be it. Now on the Curve…
    I have been using the 8830 for almost 8 months- it’s my first BB after a nightmare Treo experience. I am on my second phone-replaced with a refurb. First one lost functionality in the End key and the BB key-i’m not a button masher- just using 3000+ mins a month takes a toll I guess. I miss the camera, so I have been stopping in once a month up until this month to see what the scoop was on the Curve. Now I stop in daily. Waiting. Waiting. I don;t really mind waiting- I’d rather have a phone I like on a good network vs. the worlds greatest phone on a crap network. Everyone knows VZW has invested a SH*T-TON of money in their network going backs years- AT&T’s network belonged to how many other crap companies. Remember Voicestream? 10,000 mins for $50.00 (JK) but too bad you couldn’t actually talk to anyone. Anyway…from what I keep hearing- the phone coming is not the Curve, but something similar. Is this true- only Denny knows LOL. VZW manager is saying “we know it’s coming, but we won’t really know until the day before the release. I can vouch for this to a point, connected peeps will know when the first pallets get unwrapped.

  • hellno

    Thank YOU CD….. REALITY is such a tough thing here for some.

    CD
    #71. March 5th, 2008, at 9:49 PM.

    I agree entirely with what this post is saying. As a Verizon customer, with an unlimited data contract, I am sick of being lied to, screwed, and forking over extra cash to Verizon for crippled BB’s. Verizon is playing a *very* dangerous game. Yes, their network coverage is great. But that’s it. 1/2 of the BB’s in the global company I work for are on Verizon, the other 1/2 are on AT&T. AT&T’s network sucks, but then again, the AT&T BB’s have GPS, and full Bluetooth functionality. If the 3G’s could get their collective act together to improve network coverage, I’d jump ship in a heart beat, as would most of the other BB users on Verizon that I know and screw the early termination fee and Verizon can kiss the revenue from myself and my employer goodbye. *CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?*

    Sorry greenglider – the arguments are incorrect, bottom shelf for someone who claim to be in the industry, but that might be the corporate Koolaid they serve you.

    I call FUD on “When I talk to friends on other networks, specifically TMO and AT&T, they sound H-O-R-R-I-B-L-E.” FUD

    also FUD on “AT&T’s network belonged to how many other crap companies. Remember Voicestream? 10,000 mins for $50.00 (JK) but too bad you couldn’t actually talk to anyone.” FUD Did you ever even do any research into the history’s of the wireless providers? All are made up of smaller networks as they are bought and merged into the bigger network. I guess you miss that even verizon has this history.

    Voicestream = T-Mobile property: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile
    “T-Mobile USA is the United States based subsidiary of T-Mobile International AG. The US company was previously known as VoiceStream Wireless or Powertel. In May 2001, VoiceStream was acquired by Deutsche Telekom for US$24 billion, and in September 2002 changed the company name nationally to T-Mobile. Headquartered in Factoria, Bellevue, Washington, T-Mobile USA is currently the fourth-largest wireless carrier in the U.S. market with approximately 28 million[6] customers as of August 2007 and annual revenue of US$17.1 billion.
    The US T-Mobile network predominately uses the GSM/GPRS 1900 MHz frequency-band, making it the largest 1900 MHz network in the US. Service is available in 46 of the top 50 US markets, reaching 244 million potential customers. By mid-2008 the network is forecast to expand to 98 of 100 largest markets and 259 million potential customers.
    On September 17, 2007, T-Mobile USA announced that it will acquire SunCom Wireless for US$2.4 billion. The acquisition will improve network coverage in North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee, Georgia, and Puerto Rico. At the end of the second quarter of 2007, SunCom had more than 1.1 million customers. The acquisition is subject to governmental and regulatory approvals as well as approval by SunCom shareholders. The companies expect the deal to close in the first half of 2008.”

    SBC Communications and BellSouth = Cingular Wireless = att
    Also to note att’s network is well cared for by:
    A large number of AT&T Mobility employees are unionized, belonging to the Communication Workers of America, unlike verizon wireless with it’s anti-union busting corporate attitude.

    Denny knows lying, thats what Denny knows…

    Blind faith in Corporate anything will get you no where.

  • Ben P

    You are citing Wikipedia?

    How ironic for someone speaking the “truth”

  • NV

    hellno:
    “I call FUD on “When I talk to friends on other networks, specifically TMO and AT&T, they sound H-O-R-R-I-B-L-E.” FUD”

    Out of curiosity why are you calling “FUD” on this? How are you in any position to know what his/her experiences are when talking to others on different networks? I don’t understand what you’re getting at. You told me that this forum is for voicing his/her opinions on things…Well..that’s his/her opinion isn’t it? It’s not his “hope and dreams” as you always say. If I could figure out what your getting at, maybe I’d understand you better, but I don’t. You can go ahead and blame that on ignorance if you’d like, but I don’t think that’s the case. Not to mention, EVERYONE in the world is ignorant in different respects. Everyone lives their lives based upon their own experiences, including you. So why is this any different? I’m seriously not trying to argue with you, I’m simply trying to understand. If anyone says anything about you it’s a big deal, but you seem to think it’s ok to indirectly call everyone else stupid, just because they don’t sit around doing research and reading wiki articles to gather information on every little bit of cell phone carrier history. Everyone is being so ridiculous by not agreeing with you or by not caring about half of what you say.

    “A large number of AT&T Mobility employees are unionized, belonging to the Communication Workers of America, unlike verizon wireless with it’s anti-union busting corporate attitude.”

    What does this have to do with anything relating to Verizon’s coverage or the Curve? Why should I, or anyone care whether AT&T is unionized and VZ is not? You obviously have an issue with that, for whatever reason but that’s no one’s problem but your own.

    If you’re going to explain your side of this, please refrain from using the terms: FUD, Ignorance and Grandstanding. And Stop trying to undermine everyone’s opinion by posting Wiki links to back you up. Just put it out there and move on. Are you an ex-employee of Verizon and feel they did you wrong some how with their “corporate attitude”? Try explaining YOUR position instead of the positions of everyone you post links to, and try to do it without being so smug.

  • http://www.segwayofscottsdale.com Greenglider

    We’re one day closer to the Curve everyone, that’s a good day for me. Who wants a cool picture contest during the first week it launches? Picassa anyone? Please Hellno, no hairy buttcrack pictures or you modeling your newest pumps. Gross. And speaking of Hellno…

    You seem very knowledgeable, but I am curious what FUD is? Is it the ol’ Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt? I hate using terms that seem arbitrary like YAAA and GFY- it really doesn’t convey what you are trying to say- just looks like you are trying to speak your own language, which really defeats the purpose of language. So why bother.

    Question to anyone:
    What network was aquired to become Voicestream? And which brand became known to be Cingular? I am think it’s T-Mobile/ VS and AT&T/ Cingular, but not 100%. Someone knows- please tell….

    My thinking was…When most of the wireless networks were built in the beginning, they were brand new. Right? They only used land lines for interconnectivity and roaming agreements, so who was Voicestream bought from? That’s a tough one I suppose, but as I remember it, around the turn of the century, there were 7 companies here in Phoenix- Metro Mobile (became CellOne, Alltel- was a Bell Atlantic property,- soon to be Verizon,) 900 CDMA, B License-, Airstream, 900 CDMA, A License. Sprint- 1900 CDMA, Qwest-1900 CDMA, Nextel, AT&T- TDMA (duh) 1900…and…Voicestream. GSM. As a side note, selling CDMA 900 was just as bit as hard as selling any other network, it all came down to phones and rate plans. VS did well with rate plans, phones were all garbage Nokia’s, and they over-subscribed the crap out of a tiny GSM network that had just been built. CDMA 900 was a tenured operation kicked ass, Sprint was just getting to be known as having the worst customer service in the world and created the motto “Sell it before it works!” Qwest was a joke, Nextel was Nextel, and AT&T was notoriously the worst network decision made in the history of wireless. They wanted to be the first to launch digital, and made a hasty call and went with TDMA. I have always thought that it must have SUCKED to have to re-string that pile of dung. Who got that network……GAWD it’s just killing me!

    So question of the day if you will: What deal acquired the Voicestream and AT&T properties from the 20th century?

    BTW Hellno, I’m just bustin’ ur labias, I know you are some big stinker just sittin’ there waitin for someone to whiz on you. My pleasure. Enjoy the golden shower from this poster.

  • DC

    I heard from a very good source that the Verizon curve will be available in April.

  • jhp2

    LP,

    Thanks for posting some useful information!

  • PB

    Question to anyone:
    What network was aquired to become Voicestream?

    A: The merger of General Cellular and Pacific Northwest Cellular formed Western Wireless, a cellular provider for several western and southwestern states, as well as Hawaii. After a successful public offering by Western Wireless, the VoiceStream Wireless division was formed. In 1999, this division was spun off as an independent company. Voicestream, Deutsche Telekom, and Powertel merge to create T-mobile.

    And which brand became known to be Cingular?

    A:Cingular was formed in 2000 when SBC Communications Inc. and BellSouth combined their wireless assets into a joint venture. As most know Cingular aquired AT&T Wireless in 2004, making it the nation’s largest wireless provider. (IMO – Once cingular bought ATTwireless, they goofed it all up which eventually led me over to VZ.)

  • GBVZ

    I am currently a Verizon subscriber. I do not have a Blackberry yet and have been thinking about getting one. I’ve been doing a lot of research online and obviously found this website. I like what I see here. Through my research and my readings on this site… I think I want to buy the Curve. I really hope what you say is true… that it’s only a couple months away from a Verizon release date.

    I won’t switch from Verizon simply because, as has been stated numerous times, their network is far superior… for now. I started my life as a cell phone user with AT&T (before it had an identity crisis and became Cingular) had a cheap crappy phone… and got charged super high “roaming” rates. This was before GSM was in more places. Then I switched to Nextel and my friends and I had a blast on the ski slopes and across the room with the direct connect feature. However their service sucked too (that was before they merged with Sprint). Then I switched back to Cingular (during it’s oddly shaped orange man logo days). The reason I switched to Verizon… honestly… was a girl. Haha… we texted a lot… and I mean… a lot… She had VZ and so I was pretty much forced to switch because of their free VZ to VZ texting plans. My mother and sister were soon to follow me to VZ (from ATT). This is the part of the post that gets interesting…

    I have always been the “proprietor” of my mother’s and sister’s family plan. I was able to get them off ATT’s network and onto VZ’s without paying a break of contract fee!!! I told ATT that my sister is currently attending college up in Moorhead, MN (the closest ATT network is 300 miles away in the Twin Cities) and she hasn’t been getting good reception. ATT told me that they would probably have been contacting me sooner rather than later anyways to ask me to leave their network!!! It costs them too much money because companies now-a-days are picking up the roaming charges for their customers. So the practical upshot of all of this is that we are all not on VZ and after personally switching carriers four times… and going through a couple dozen cell phones… I’m not leaving VZ!!! So please VZ… release the BB Curve so that I can begin my life as, from as far as I can tell, a satisfied BB owner…

    Sorry if that was too long… (*breath)

  • michael

    my contract with verizon is over in the begining of april so if verizon doesnt come out with the curve until then im gonna leave verizon to at & t

  • http://www.segwayofscottsdale.com Greenglider

    PB-that was the shiznit. Thank you!

    I stopped into VZW today-it’s funny-you know the employees know. the BUZZ is on. Good for us right- I like looking forward to something. no takers on the picture contest?

  • hellno

    ” the BUZZ is on. Good for us right- I like looking forward to something.”

    Oh man, how sad it must be to be a verizon customer. All hopes, dreams and panties are in a bunch for a RIM Blackberry which has been already on the market for almost a year (aka well on it’s way to antiquated, archaic, dated, moth-eaten, outdated, outmoded, out-of-date, outworn, passé, aging, obsolescent; discarded, disused, superannuated, worn-out; inoperable, unusable, unworkable, useless; dead, defunct, extinct; dormant, fallow, free, idle, inactive, inert, inoperative, latent; ancient, antediluvian, antique, fusty, musty, old, oldfangled, old-fashioned, old-time, old-world; aged, age-old, hoary, venerable; bygone, erstwhile, former, late, past; historic, historical) Soon even verizon is upgrading to the standard, open, global GSM/LTE technology, hopefully making things easier for mcWireless customers.

    Keep on stroking each other verizon customers, the rest of the Globe is watching, and laughing again at the desperation of verizon customers hoping and dreaming verizon will release a decent (yet crippled of course) device for their non-standard, closed, proprietary network. We watch from our almost year old GSM RIM Curves, which operate anywhere in the world.

    Now thats “the shiznit”, the FACTS, TRUTH and REALITY.

    Caveat emptor, there is zero need for desperation, hopes and dreams when it comes to wireless devices from a SERVICE provider, at least those that use standard, open, global GSM technology….

  • hellno

    michael,

    You’d be in good company, at&t has the most Blackberry customers on their network.

    “Your World. Delivered.”

  • Marcus Aurelius

    hellno loves to attack all posters who like VZW and his usual charge is they are spreading FUD and threadcrap. He also belittles them for responding to his negative posts with insults and name calling.

    However, to a first time poster who said nothing negative this is how HE responds,

    “Keep on stroking each other verizon customers, the rest of the Globe is watching, and laughing again at the desperation of verizon customers hoping and dreaming verizon will release a decent (yet crippled of course) device for their non-standard, closed, proprietary network. We watch from our almost year old GSM RIM Curves, which operate anywhere in the world.”

    We are stroking each other because we understand that service is what providers are all about. He doesn’t. His blind hatred of VZW is borderline demented. Hellno is the topic of conversation on several different phone blog threads as a wacko nutcase.

    He hasn’t gotten it, doesn’t get it and never will get it…there are people who KNOW they receive the best phone service in there area from VZW and won’t switch to inferior service just to get a tricked out phone. They will wait. To us, service comes first and phone features second. Perhaps because we are in a business situation that depends on reliable service, perhaps because you just don’t like not getting through or dropped calls. Whatever…the service is important to us.

    I suspect he lives in his mother’s basement and does not need to communicate on his cellphone outside of his limited sphere of influence and AT&T works fine in his area. GREAT…be happy. But stop bugging those of us who need reliable, dependable service in a multitude of applications and areas and thus need VZW.

    We know what works for us. Stop telling us we don’t know.

    I for one am thrilled that you have some toys you can play with in your room and are happy. Stay that way and leave us out in the real world alone!

    Anxiously awaiting your next put down, fanboy, fud-filled response!

    :)

    Marcus

  • bluehorseshoe

    @ Marcus

    Just ignore him. Its not worth your time.

  • NV

    High-5 to Marcus.

    I want to talk about my hopes and dreams which is that Verizon will release the curve soon full of crippled features (that I have no use for anyway) and then I’ll have the BEST network FOR ME, and a great phone to go along with it.

    Yay for all of us and our Fanboy/girl FUD!

    Should we acknowledge the FACTS, TRUTH, and REALITY? Nah, let’s just stay IGNORANT and continue to GRANDSTAND here in this forum.

    HELL YES!

    In reference to hellno:
    “CAVEAT LECTOR”

  • PB

    “Nah, let’s just stay IGNORANT and continue to GRANDSTAND here in this forum.”

    Man this makes my day of work go by faster…. lovin it.

  • http://www.segwayofscottsdale.com Greenglider

    I think it’s all good that this sad sack lives to piss in the well, I can only imagine the futility of this persons career. Office Space comes to mind- you know- the guy that keeps getting moved around.

    A reminder to all, guys like hellno remind us that are social skills are in check, our personal psychology is relatively intact, and we actually have common interests like other people. The fact that hellno tyrades on every board only serves hellno any valuable purpose, a brief moment of putting other people down to make up for years of some psychological problems. Great- another one of those…

    But, I have to admit- there is some value in the antichrist poster. The phone may come out only to be followed by a better BB on other networks, or it may have a failure rate higher than call attempts over on the AT&T spiderweb. These are real possibilities, however unlikely.

  • Danielle

    well i’ve had it. i went ahead and signed up with tmobile yesterday and my curve is on the way. i’m not under contract with verizon (haven’t been for more than 2 yrs!) but i’ll keep my old razr until i’m sure the tmobile network isn’t too bad in my area (washington dc). i have 20 days to send the tmobile curve back, so hopefully verizon gives us some concrete info in that time. i want to stay with verizon, but i want the curve more!!

  • Aaron

    March 7th….and No word….seriously….this is getting to be too much. Is it gonna be like….we all wake up suddenly one day and it’s released? Because one would think that there is like…sneak peaks or something….because there hasn’t been anything.

  • bluehorseshoe

    I was in a VZW store yesterday and asked about when I can upgrade my Pearl to the Curve and the guy looked confused. He said I can upgrade after 1 year, however he didn’t know anything about the Curve (and I believe it…). He looked at the manager and asked if she heard anything, she stated no, and then asked me where did I hear about it. I chuckled and told her ‘reliable sources it’s coming out in April’. Her response was that they didn’t receive the training for it…with a smile. My response to her was that they didn’t need any if they were already selling the Pearl (keyboard is the only real difference). I’ve spoken with her before and she denied the Pearl, only to have it announced by VZW the following week. My take on all this…no later than April unless something fails in testing. Something is up…their just trying to keep a straight face about it like Apple does about it’s releases.

    BTW…since we’re on VZW and the BB, has anyone tried tethering a VZW BB on a MacBook Pro? I just ordered a MacBook Pro and curious if anyone has had any issues with connecting. If so, has anyone tried tethering via XP/Vista through BootCamp or Parallels or VMWare’s Fusion? I haven’t tried it yet…just curious. Any feedback is appreciated. Thanks in advance.

  • Ben P

    @ bluehorseshoe:

    Not to be an ass… (ok well maybe…)

    HowardForums/Google is your friend…

    If you dont know what HowardForums is… you need to curl up in a corner and think about your pathetic life without HoFo…

  • LP

    @ Ben P

    All is lost without HoFo… It’s the modern day Alexandria library of wireless knowledge.

    Hahahaha…

  • bluehorseshoe

    @ Ben

    Sorry, but I don’t sit around hitting every site/blog out there and read up on them. I hit up a few select sites and keep it at that. It’s not a profession of mine to browse all day, and my BB keeps me posted on those select few (such as this blog). As for ‘my pathetic life without HoFo’…you’ve got to be kidding. And if you’re referring to my question regarding the VZW BB linked in to a MAC, of course I know it works, but I’m looking for real world experiences since I have not tried it out personally on a MAC. Sure, I can find answers from people on other boards if I have the desire to do so, but why not ask here?

    PS – and yes, Google is my friend, but not when I’m doing all of my responses, posts, etc. from my BB. My laptop isn’t on all day long, and when it is, it’s usually busy doing work.

  • GBVZ

    So I know a guy who’s a manager at a Verizon store. I asked him “when”… and he said, “The power’s the be say that the 8330 should be out by the end of the month.”

  • NV

    At this point, everything is pointing to very late March/Early April. I’m content with that, so I’ll wait it out until then. I’m just glad we’re past the point of speculating whether VZW is even releasing the curve.

  • GBVZ

    Oh yes… I’m glad we’re through that awkward phase of wondering where our relationship is… haha… now we know… but like any good relationship, it takes time… sometimes too much time but whatever… haha. Well the battle for the VZW Curve is almost over… now all we have to look forward to is the makeup sex.

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