CDMA BlackBerry Curve Pictures Popping Up All Over The Internet

by Robb Dunewood on February 12, 2008 · 91 comments

We’ve been hearing rumors about a CDMA BlackBerry Curve possibly debuting before WES for a while. Now it would appear that CDMA BlackBerry Curve pictures are popping up in various spots on the internet.

I’ve got to say that a CDMA BlackBerry Pearl is probably the first device since SureType has hit the scene that would make me want to switch back to a full QWERTY keyboard bearing device.

From what we can tell, the CDMA BlackBerry Curve pretty much looks like any other BlackBerry Curve. If you want to see more actual pictures, however, check it out here, and here

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  • hellno

    “the CDMA BlackBerry Curve pretty much looks like any other BlackBerry Curve.”

    Until verizon gets it’s hands on it to cripple and remove features, functions and put on the verizon UI. Know others noticed Sprint like icon’s in the pictures.

  • http://www.rimarkable.com Robb Dunewood

    I noticed them too. No way Sprint comes out with this before Verizon…

    I admit, however, that Sprint won’t cripple theirs like Verizon will.

  • Sean

    Yes!!!! Finally! My work contract is about up, i’ll make the push for the Curve(as long as it actually comes true)! Verizon’s coverage in my area is the best out of any carrier.

  • Ed

    I would have to agree about the CDMA Pearl and SureType. I hate SureType on my Verizon Pearl, it worked great on the origianl Pearl but this new version is just horrible. I am also considering moving to the CDMA Curve when it comes out on Verizon.

  • global guy

    does anyone know if it will be a dual cdma/gsm world edition?

  • bluehorseshoe

    Now we’re talking. Crippled or not, I’m about the service. No sense using a non-crippled device if I’m going to worry about dropping a call because I moved away from the window. Besides, the Pearl isn’t bad at all on VZW.

    As for the Suretype, I haven’t noticed a difference between the original Pearl and the Pearl on VZW. I’m curious as to what others are coming up with…please let me know. I’d be interested to hear.

  • Eric

    My new-every-two is up with VZW and I’d like to get something better than my 8703, but the keyboard on the 8830 sucks. I hope the Curve comes out soon. The keyboard on the Curve is much closer to the 8703.

  • hellno

    Ed
    #4. February 12th, 2008, at 10:36 AM.
    “I hate SureType on my Verizon Pearl, it worked great on the origianl Pearl but this new version is just horrible”

    Ed is there any info to support this or is this just your personal opinion? IMO SureType is just about as good as it gets, though IMO the iPhone’s Predictive Text Entry is on the same high level. I doubt RIM’s SureType on verizon branded Pearl’s is any different making it work worse than it’s brothers and sister Pearls.

  • Thought

    Finally…this baby is mine when it comes out!

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  • jhp2

    New every two is up for me so i will be at the front of th eline for this baby. Especially as my 7130 resets several times daily!

  • Justin

    Press Releases on RIM website

    09/07/2006 RIM announces Pearl
    11/30/2006 Pearl comes to Cingular
    10/01/2007 RIM announces CDMA Pearl
    11/01/2007 CDMA Pearl for VZW

    05/03/2007 RIM announces Curve
    05/30/2007 Curve comes to Cingular (AT&T)
    00/00/2008 RIM announces CDMA Curve
    00/00/2008 CDMA Curvefor VZW

    If the Curve follows the same pattern as the Pearl, RIM will announce the CDMA Curve about a month before the carrier press release. Hopefully we see that announcement soon!

  • BB

    so if it follows we wont see it till july or maybe august?????????

  • Ralph

    Until verizon gets it’s hands on it to cripple and remove features, functions and put on the verizon UI.

    All of the carriers tweak these units. Verizon gets hammered for restricting GPS to VZNav only, but AT&T gets a free ride when they restrict GPS to TeleNav only. Sprint’s service & coverage is so bad, they’ve not seen an increase in customers in how long? Their very solvency is in question, expecially since their acquisition of Nextel. I do travel outside of major metro areas and into rural America where the only phones that work are AT&T (maybe) and VZW (always).

    And I’ve never seen the VZW UI on a Berry device or any real smartphone, for that matter.

    Give us some real feedback instead of baseless VZW attacks.

    does anyone know if it will be a dual cdma/gsm world edition?

    Um, no – in all probability it will not be. That is what the 8800 series is for. The twin radio functionality takes up too much room to include both plus camera AND have the smaller case.

    Besides – have you seen the rates to use the GSM card on the 8830s? It would be cheaper for me to get off at Heathrow, grab a prepaid from a vending machine and go with that.

  • hellno

    Ralph,

    WRONG.

    Verizon has a long history of restricting and crippling many things from it’s customers branded devices. GPS is just the newest in a long string of verizon’s crippling and it happens to be taking function away from RIM BB devices branded only for verizon. None of this is “baseless”, like others before you, it would be good for you to learn before posting FUD which has been proven time and time again as BS.

    Look up the meaning of autonomous GPS. All BB’s with GPS have autonomous GPS, which works completely independent of the wireless service provider. The only reason to cripple it is for verizon is to be able to nickle and dime it’s customers for a service which the device is built by RIM to do for free.

    Verizon gets me again with a disabled feature
    http://jkontherun.blogs.com/jkontherun/2007/07/verizon-gets-me.html

    By the way your in for a real treat when you get to see the vzw UI and the way it’s forced on verizon customers. Thats how McWireless does it…

    Sir Charge
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-pzBloyvAk

    Sir Charge returns!
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=4W6pBNDEao8&feature=related

    Sir Charge, III – Whac-A-Charge!
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=VDvXaUH6NNo&feature=related

  • bluehorseshoe

    Why do you type wrong is all caps? Are you retarded? The guy states an opinion like everyone else and you then enter the scene with your usual anti this, that, and the other. You’re the biggest offender on this board based on your poor grasp of the English language and inability to properly articulate a point.

    You don’t know crap about IT, phones, or anything else for that matter. So please reply to this post so you can continue to prove my point. I’m sure you will.

  • hellno

    Is this opinion? “All of the carriers tweak these units. Verizon gets hammered for restricting GPS to VZNav only, but AT&T gets a free ride when they restrict GPS to TeleNav only.”

    NOPE… Autonomous GPS, we’ve been over this before when you too made the incorrect STATEMENT. Either way it’s incorrect and the TRUTH was posted to show Ralph he had it wrong.

    Didn’t know bluehorseshoe was here to correct and give opinions on grammer but hey he might as well since when it comes to bluehorseshoe and all the FUD he posts (which gets corrected by those in the know) his fragile ego needs something to post about. As we all can see he admits he has no clue about “IT, phones, or anything else for that matter” and sadly feel the need to take things personal when those in the know post TRUTH which doesn’t go along with his personal hopes and dreams.

    Autonomous GPS, verizon DOES cripple and remove features and functions. NOTHING in that statement is without base in REALITY.

    FACTS before bluehorseshoe FUD.

  • bluehorseshoe

    @ hellidiot…

    OK. Here’s a FACT. You’re a RETARD. I probably shouldn’t even call you that because that would be giving the rest of the mentally challeneged population a bad name.

    How many walls have you run into with those blinders on? Do you wear a lamp shade over your head? Does your mother put a leash on you when she takes you outside? Have you ever been accused of being the missing link? How many times have you wiped your ass to only realize it’s the same stuff that comes out of your mouth?

  • hellno

    bluehorseshoe once again thanks for staying on topic and acting like a adult. Now again, stop using RIMarkable as your personal toilet. Your fragile ego is making you diarrhea post again you must be desperate for attention today. Again as in other threads come up with a intelligent thought and try to show with TRUTH why things are not as they really are.

    Do you dispute that RIM puts autonomous GPS in their GPS Blackberries?
    Do you dispute that autonomous GPS works without any help from the service provider?
    Do you dispute that RIM’s cdma berry’s w/GPS have autonomous GPS?
    Do you dispute that verizon’s berry’s have functions and features crippled and removed that work on sprint’s (and all other Berry’s in that family)?
    Do you dispute that verion’s past and present anti-consumer actions make anything posted “baseless”?

    FACTS before bluehorseshoe fiction.

    Again bluehorseshoe your personal comments and ignorance yet again have gotten you pointed out and given you the attention you so crave. You gotta pay to play and your ignorance has put you in debt, your grandstanding, FUD posting and abuse of RIMarkable and fellow posters who want to discuss the TRUTH not excuses and our resident troll which turns discussion personal when we don’t agree with the never ending ignorance known as bluehorseshoe.

    No excuses, NO bluehorseshoe FUD.

  • bluehorseshoe

    Do you dispute that you’re an idiot? 10 out of 10 on this board think that you’re an idiot, and I’m sure if Jobbs found out you use an iPhone, he’d take yours away.

    You bore me.

  • Ralph

    Not sure who or what you are ‘hellno” but I am positive no one has ever accused you of being intelligent.

    Yes, VZW does cripple features, but so does AT&T, Telus, Vodafone, Sprint and others. I’ve spoken to many an AT&T rep about using GPS software on their Berry devices and they say it can’t be done. I know several people WITH AT&T Berry & WM devices and all they can have is Telenav, just like all I can have is VZNav on VZW.

    For the record, I’ve had a half-dozen smart phones on VZW and not a one has VZW branding that can’t be removed and none have had their software locked out. In fact, the BB devices with GPS aren’t difficult to unlock the GPS function in them – but you will void your warranty and you will have to redo your hack each time you update the software. VZW is no worse than any other carrier when it comes to smartphones.

    Now, if you get your BB from VZW and pay full price, it isn’t a difficult thing to have them unlock the GPS for you… but anyone who does so is a fool with their money.

    If you are really running an iPhone, you of all poeople shouldn’t be talking about configured, crippled and locked down devices, as the iPhone is one of the worst offenders – ask anyone whose iPhone was bricked by a software ‘update’ – and if you worked for AT&T for as long as I did, you would know that one of the LAST companies to ever allow you anything extra on your service for free is AT&T. Second would be any of the former Bell companies, of which VZW is one of.

    Fools and their money are easily parted, as evidenced by the people who not only bought an iPhone, but who think it is A) a smartphone, B) an open platform or C) on a secure network. It is a multifunction MP3 device that happens to have a phone feature built in. Apple has never been as open or as fluid in their offerings as Microsoft or vanilla UNIX. GSM, while open, is easy to hack – I would NEVER share credit card info on a GSM phone and I would never assume that my phone connection wasn’t cloned by some crook somewhere.

    The worst coverage network on the planet is Sprint and I’d rather have a broken Razr on Sprint than an iPhone on AT&T.

    You remind me of an old neighbor I once had – all mouth, no brains, no money and man -breasts – his was always best, even though it never was – but to listen to him, he swore his crap was better than your souffle. Did he have intelligence? Hellno!

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  • bluehorseshoe

    @ Ralph

    (golf clap)

    Very well done.

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  • hellno

    Ralph your statements are incorrect about everything. Every grandstanding statement you make above is FUD. Some easy proof of that is your head cheerleader aka RIMarkable’s resident ignorant troll bluehorseshoe agrees with you. Nice you feel you can follow bluehorseshoe and turn discussions personal too, I’ll be sure to point out your ignorance which at times equals bluehorseshoe’s since thats how you want to play the game.

    “Yes, VZW does cripple features, but so does AT&T, Telus, Vodafone, Sprint and others”
    Even though this is FALSE, is this a good enough excuse for verizon’s anti-consumer actions? There is a growing list of complaints against Verizon Wireless, some of which have matured into class action lawsuits. It’s a well known FACT that verizon and verizon only cripples and removes functions and features from it’s customers handsets.

    “VZW is no worse than any other carrier when it comes to smartphones.”
    Nope WRONG again, another FALSE, FUD statement.

    Verizon Wireless Pulls Plug on BlackBerry 8830 GPS Features
    And Some Other Ways the Company Has Nickel and Dimed Their Customers
    http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/327280/verizon_wireless_pulls_plug_on_blackberry.html

    Verizon Still Crippling Bluetooth
    http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20060112/082257_F.shtml

    Verizon cripples new RAZRs- why is anyone surprised?
    http://jkontherun.blogs.com/jkontherun/2006/07/verizon_cripple.html

    The Motorola v710: Verizon’s New Crippled Phone
    http://pencomputing.com/wireless/motorolav710.html

    “Now, if you get your BB from VZW and pay full price, it isn’t a difficult thing to have them unlock the GPS for you”
    Nope WRONG again, another FALSE statement nice try again Ralph.

    at&t’s BB’s with GPS works with Google Maps, BBMaps, the difference is unlike verizon’s branded BB’s you can actually work around at&t preference of telenav. all you can have is vznav on verizon because verizon has CRIPPLED the GPS on their branded BB’s as proven above.

    Can you hear me now? Doubtful.

    http://forums.crackberry.com/f61/rim-says-8830-gps-autonomous-1921/
    http://news.techdirt.com/news/wireless/article/5948
    http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20070723/104637.shtml
    http://jkontherun.blogs.com/jkontherun/2007/07/verizon-gets-me.html

    You are also completely WRONG when it comes to every statement you make about the iPhone. Nothing is crippled, Apple handles the software and at&t handles the service. It’s obvious you have problems with Apple and with the revolutionary iPhone which has raised the bar on smartphones, so far up that no manufacture has been able to even come close to catching up. The iPhone is more than a smartphone it’s a handheld computer. The offical SDK coming out this month and the platform will be open for 3rd party developers. You could be confusing hacked iPhones which might have been bricked, but the FACTS have shown bricked phones were those which were hacked. Just like a newer firmware upgrade unbricks

    New Firmware Fixes Previously Bricked iPhones
    http://apple.slashdot.org/apple/08/01/18/1933219.shtml

    As for your FUD about GSM not being secure, better LEARN the TRUTH about that too. The NSA finds it to be secure enough for their use, in fact:
    “Is GSM secure? From the outset, GSM has been a system designed with stringent levels of inbuilt security. With constantly enhanced transmission protocols and algorithms added to the flexible and future proof platform, GSM remains the most secure public wireless standard in the world.”
    http://www.gsmworld.com/technology/faq.shtml

    Ralph with your post of FUD we have all seen your “crap souffle” which does smell. You have proven that your just about as ignorant as your cheerleader partner bluehorseshoe. Your poor “old neighbor” was right he was living next to ignorance.

    Better to listen and learn than to FUD and show complete ignorance with fanboy false hopes and dreams. Glad you turned things personal now? Your ego posting FUD is “crap souffle”. RIMarkable is not http://www.PowderpuffMarkable.com your BS will be pointed out here by those in the know.

    FACT before FUD “crap souffle” ala Ralph

  • hellno

    Yet the FACT remains

    “the CDMA BlackBerry Curve pretty much looks like any other BlackBerry Curve.”

    Until verizon gets it’s hands on it to cripple and remove features, functions and put on the verizon UI.

    Why RIM lets verizon cripple and remove features, functions and ugly up it’s blackberry with the verizon UI is still a mystery which by the way is a negative for RIM and consumers. Just one of many reasons why RIM wastes very little time with one or two available cdma phones, and those which RIM does manufacture are offered over a year after their standard, open, global GSM models are offered. Luckly Apple has also helped RIM (and others) showing how a top tier manufacture should take charge of the hardware and let the service provider only provide the service.

    Caveat Emptor

  • bluehorseshoe

    @ hellno

    The only thing that I see crippled is your mental capacity.

  • Marcus Aurelius

    Can I for the life of me figure out why the hell, hellno is here? Hellno!

    He has such an obvious bug up his butt about VZW it is ridiculous. When somebody picks up a VZW phone and buys it, all he has to do is ask what he is getting and what he can do with the phone. If you don’t want it, don’t buy it. Simple. Why are you here again?

    I have VZW because it WORKS! I get my phone calls and messages everywhere I go. When I had T-Mobile…I didn’t. When I had AT&T…it didn’t. I’ve never had SPRINT and I’m sure I won’t since it will probably be bought out by someone else before it completely collapses.

    Why Hellno can’t understand that THE most important feature in a phone is the quality of reception. Nothing else matters 1% as much. SERVICE Hellno…SERVICE!

    Last weekend at a dinner at my sister-in-laws house out in the country, I was the only person who had cell phone reception at the house. Nothing for the T-mobile people, nothing for the AT&T people.

    Do you get it hellno? SERVICE!

    I don’t give a rip what your bellyaching is about disable services. If you don’t like VZW…don’t use them.

    I LOVE VZW.

    I LOVE VZW.

    I LOVE VZW!

    The capitals and repeating lines was to bug the hell out of hellno!

    Grow up buddy and stop wasting our time here on this board. There must be an AOL chat room for you to go and cry and moan about your problems.

    Marcus

  • hellno

    More excuses this time from verizon fanboy Marcus…. Marcus sees others acting up and getting attention and seems to need attention too, since you like to turn things around personal, you can bank on being treated the same. Every day we learn ignorance and being a verizon customer go hand in hand for some.

    verizon shouldn’t be crippling and removing function and features from any phones especially RIM Blackberries. Fanboy hopes and dreams will not change the FACTS. verizon’s actions are not good for the customers and not good for Rim (or other manufactures) You can make every excuse which makes you feel better about your choice of service provider. I DO get it about verizon, I also know that verizon’s service is on par with other service providers this mythical fanboy nonsense about verizon is LAME. Verizon’s service coverage is no better than the rest. When you factor in the REALITY and FACTS of verizon crippling’s and feature and function removal that counts against any pro’s one might have of verizon.

    Before you continue grandstand ego posting, FUD’ing and telling fellow members what to do you Marcus better learn the FACTS. Your lame capitals and repeating lines bugs no one but points out the ignorance which is Marcus. McWireless aka verizon with all it’s anti-consumer actions is a perfect fit for a ignorant customer like yourself.

  • hellno

    Yet STILL the FACT remains

    “the CDMA BlackBerry Curve pretty much looks like any other BlackBerry Curve.”

    Until verizon gets it’s hands on it to cripple and remove features, functions and put on the verizon UI.

    Why RIM lets verizon cripple and remove features, functions and ugly up it’s blackberry with the verizon UI is still a mystery which by the way is a negative for RIM and consumers. Just one of many reasons why RIM wastes very little time with one or two available cdma phones, and those which RIM does manufacture are offered over a year after their standard, open, global GSM models are offered. Luckly Apple has also helped RIM (and others) showing how a top tier manufacture should take charge of the hardware and let the service provider only provide the service.

    Caveat Emptor

  • Marcus Aurelius

    OK Hellno, now it is personal.

    Re-read my post you lying sack of sh@t. I did not tell anyone what to do except you. I told you to move your crap to an AOL chat room and stop FUD’ING (whatever the hell that is) on this board.

    I told everyone when buying a phone, check what features and services you want and then buy the phone you want. If you don’t like VZW…Don’t buy it!

    I then explained very clearly the facts! The BEST SERVICE is the most important thing to me and VZW gives me the best service. What could be more simple than that you moron!

    You are the one who is here with an agenda. You MUST work for AT&T, there can be no other reason in the world you would be here on your one man campaign to get people to switch from VZW. YOU are the one telling people what to do and what to believe.

    I merely pointed out the absolute truth for me in my area. SERVICE is the key thing and VZW wins that war by a million miles. Why can’t you accept that and leave us alone?

    Did VZW fire you and you had to go to the inferior network? :)

    You are getting pathetic in your lunatic attempts to persuade everyone to hate VZW. The market place is very simple, it should be simple enough even you can understand it. BUY WHAT YOU WANT and leave everyone else alone to do the same!

    Please stop lying about what I post. Everyone else can clearly read the truth of my statements and I will request your removal from this board if you continue to lie about what I post.

  • bluehorseshoe

    @ Marcus

    If you’ve been on this board for the past year, you’ll realize hellno is missing a chromosome. I’ll have fun with him from time to time, but the truth is he contradicts what he writes. We are all aware of his idiocy.

  • hellno

    Nope your still WRONG on all of your statements Marcus Aurelius, but we wouldn’t expect anything different from another ignorant verizon fanboy who has lost touch with reality. Has anyone here at RIMarkable told you to you what to do? Has anyone even told you to get rid of your beloved verizon? You are rude, crude and show no respect so thats exactly the treatment you will receive back. What’s posted about verizon and it’s anti-consumer actions with it’s blackberry’s and other phones is the TRUTH and it’s the TRUTH which upsets you so much. However that gives you no special pass to turn things around personally and/or lash out at those who post the TRUTH. You are right one should buy what they want BUT a educated customer is a smart customer. By the looks of a few posts here from verizon customers it more than proves the point that verizon has at least some of the most ignorant consumers aka vealot sheep.

    Do you think verizon doesn’t cripple and remove features, functions and put on the verizon UI? Are the FACTS not good enough for you? If you don’t believe whats posted here go thru the provided links and LEARN what others have to also say when they post the TRUTH about verizon and it’s crippling and remove features, functions. If YOU feel verizon works better for you great, but knowledge of the negatives is important. If YOU feel verizon works better for you great, but it doesn’t mean other service providers are not just as good.

    Service providers, provide service which is on par more or less. Hopes and dreams of “inferior networks” is what verizon FUD (and verizon sheep) is built on.

    Again no one has told you what to do, no one has told you to cancel your verizon account. BUT you (and the other sad few vealots here) have no special pass to turn things around personally and/or lash out at those who post the TRUTH. If you don’t like the TRUTH then let verizon know since it’s their anti-consumer and anti-RIM actions which are being posted about.

    The TRUTH remains that verizon’s cdma Curve if ever released (and other verizon Blackberry’s) will have less functions and features and will have verizon crippling which doesn’t happen to RIM Blackberry’s from other providers, even those of the same exact model from Sprint.

    Which is a negative for RIM and consumers and just one of many reasons why RIM wastes very little time with one or two available cdma blackberrys, and those which RIM does manufacture are offered over a year after their standard, open, global GSM models are offered.

    The TRUTH about verizon really hurts the ignorant, even causes some to act out irrationally with rude and crude comments to fellow RIMarkable posters. Personal ignorance, and ignorance of the TRUTH about verizon’s anti-consumer actions does give vealots (verizon fanboys) any special pass to turn things around personally and/or lash out at those who post the TRUTH like a child throwing a temper tantrum.

    A temper tantrum is an immature way of expressing anger. Temper tantrums range from whining and crying to screaming, kicking, hitting, and breath holding.

    Caveat Emptor

    FACTS and TRUTH before Marcus Aurelius’s tantrum’s, FUD, and fanboy games.

  • Marcus Aurelius

    Hellno, You just don’t understand do you?

    Here is the TRUTH!

    VZW is a much better network for me and that is why I use them.

    End of story!

    Why can’t you get that?

    It is ALL ABOUT HAVING SERVICE. Nothing else matters to me. If it does to you…go whine and complain about disabled features to people who care. I DON’T!

    Give me the service or give me dead air. You can choose dead air if you wish! I don’t!

    Stop whining and moaning and grow up!

  • hellno

    Marcus, bluehorseshoe

    Thanks to your ignorant, grandstanding, ego stroking posts we all know all too well the ignorance of you and your fellow sad few vealot fanboy sheep. The shame is your ignorant, grandstanding, ego stroking posts are a waste of Robb’s RIMarkable bandwidth and show just how rude and crude verizon fanboys can get when desperate for attention. Worse your ignorance about verizon and it’s anti-consumer actions is nothing but a green light to verizon to continue to cripple and remove features, functions and put on the verizon UI from RIM Blackberry’s. Is that ok? As fans of RIM and it’s blackberry’s is it ok for a heavy handed service provider to take consumer freedoms and cripple and remove features, functions and put on the verizon UI from RIM Blackberry’s? You and your ignorance is part of the problem. Smart consumers, those in the know bring the FACTS of anti-consumer actions out in the open to force corporations like verizon to conduct it’s business pro-consumer. Luckly judging from some posts here verizon doesn’t have to worry about any of their customers being smart consumers, or in the know.

    Caveat Emptor

    FACTS and TRUTH before Marcus, Ralph, and bluehorseshoe tantrum’s, FUD, and fanboy games.

    Word is Marcus, Ralph, and bluehorseshoe are forming a ignorant vealot support group at http://www.powderpuffmarkable.com It’s a special place where nothing but vealot hopes and dreams about verizon is allowed. It’s easy to keep it that way since verizon has crippled and remove features, functions and put on the verizon UI on everything there. It’s part of the verizon walled garden with “unlimited” (aka 5mb) of verizon reality per vealot.

  • hellno

    Yet STILL the FACT remains, since the thread is about the rumored cdma Curve, not about anyones hopes and dreams of verizon service.

    “the CDMA BlackBerry Curve pretty much looks like any other BlackBerry Curve.”

    Until verizon gets it’s hands on it to cripple and remove features, functions and put on the verizon UI.

    Why RIM lets verizon cripple and remove features, functions and ugly up it’s blackberry with the verizon UI is still a mystery which by the way is a negative for RIM and consumers. Just one of many reasons why RIM wastes very little time with one or two available cdma phones, and those which RIM does manufacture are offered over a year after their standard, open, global GSM models are offered. Luckly Apple has also helped RIM (and others) showing how a top tier manufacture should take charge of the hardware and let the service provider only provide the service.

    Caveat Emptor

  • Marcus Aurelius

    Verizon Wireless’ ongoing network investment now totals more than $442 million in Oregon over the past seven years. The company has invested more than $44 billion nationwide since the company was formed – on average $5.5 billion each year.

    “We are so confident in our network that we are inviting new customers to take a 30-day test drive,” said Kurtzman. “If they are not completely satisfied with their experience they can take their number to another carrier and we will refund their money for calls, equipment, activation fee and taxes.”

    Verizon Wireless’ national network reliability is also supported by industry-leading redundancy and maintenance measures, which have proven particularly valuable during natural disasters and other emergencies. In fact, high flood waters along the Oregon coast late last year had minimal impact on Verizon Wireless’ network.

    Standard Verizon Wireless network reliability includes battery back-up power at all facilities as well as generators installed at all switching facilities and many cell site locations. The company also operates a fleet of mobile generators and temporary cell sites, or cells-on-wheels, ready for deployment for emergencies.

    When high flood waters hit Oregon last year, the company deployed a Cell on Wheels (COW) mobile cell site to Vernonia, Oregon to provide wireless network coverage to area residents and emergency responders.
    —————————————————————-

    Clearly this is a company that is intent on screwing their customers by disabling features on phones.

    However…I WANT THE SERVICE!

    :)

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  • hellno

    Yet what Marcus with his limited metal capacity has yet to get and is Yet STILL the FACT remains, since the thread is about the rumored cdma Curve, NOT about anyones hopes and dreams of verizon service. Posting verizon FUD quotes will NOT change that FACT.

    “the CDMA BlackBerry Curve pretty much looks like any other BlackBerry Curve.”

    Until verizon gets it’s hands on it to cripple and remove features, functions and put on the verizon UI.

    To some like Marcus with his limited metal capacity paying a service provider monthly from anti-consumer device crippling and feature and funtion removal is OK. However take the fanboy out of the equation and big picture verizon’s crippling actions are not only unacceptable for most consumers (luckly many verizon customers are ignorant sheep like Marcus) and don’t know the crippling REALITY. verizon’s crippling actions are also unacceptable for the manufactures devices which are being crippled. Why should manufactures do their best in designing wireless devices knowing full well verizon is going to cripple and remove functions and features? Why should RIM do their best for their cdma customers only to have a heavy handed service provider like verizon cripple and remove functions and features?

    Marcus with his limited metal capacity hasn’t figured out it’s alright to have both device function AND service. Many already know this.

    RIM’s rumored upcoming Curve would be a much better device if verizon wouldn’t cripple and remove features, functions and ugly up it’s blackberry with the verizon UI.

    Caveat Emptor….. luckly most have the metal capacity to understand.

  • Marcus Aurelius

    If they have your mental capacity hellno, nobody will be able to reach them by cell phone!

    :)

    You don’t get it, you never will get it. SERVICE is the KEY! Not your infantile features you like to play with. Without service, you have nothing. Can I explain it any more clearly to you?

    Doesn’t matter. You are as thick as a brick and will merely try to go off topic again. It is YOU who pops up on every thread and bashes VZW. I know this thread is about the curve but what were your posts about? Bashing Verizon.

    Please don’t respond. You won’t say a single thing of value.

  • hellno

    Yet what Marcus with his limited metal capacity has yet to get is you can have SERVICE and FEATURES and FUNCTIONS. But Marcus with his limited metal capacity wouldn’t know that as a verizon fanboy. The other providers are more than able to provide both

  • Marcus Aurelius

    Wrong. How many times have I told you…I get no T-mobile or AT&T in many places around here where I DO get Verizon.

    Stop lying. You know nothing about what comparable service is in this area.

    You are absolutely crazy and you do not know what you are talking about.

    Stick your I-phone where your brains are!

  • bluehorseshoe

    @ hellidiot

    How many times can you refer to the word mental capacity in one paragraph? And more importantly, why are you lifting my lines? I phrased mental capacity sometime ago, specially reserved for your moronic tirades. Are you lacking in the creative arena where you need to begin stealing my lines reserved for you? Don’t make me come down to Penn Station and evict you? Or are you the guy on 43rd street who plugs his computer into a lamp post?

    The message is clear…you’re an idiot an everyone here knows it.

  • Marcus Aurelius

    AMEN bluehorseshoe!

  • Ralph

    Has anyone else noticed hellno’s refusal to admit anything he says might be incorrect? He goes so far as to only reference sites from 2+ years ago or those sites dedicated to hating VZW.

    Its like telling me to go look at Mustang Monthly for why the Camaro is junk.

    Hey hellno – instead of referring me to your fanboy sites (I can spot them by their URL so i don’t have to visit them to see what kind of gullible fool you really are), why don’t you go to the AT&T site and find out how many of their Berry devices you can load with your own turn-by-turn GPS software.

    The VZW bluetooth suit you’re so fond of touting? Gee, I was in on that one – it included Motorola on the V710 phone, because of joint advertising that neglected to tell you that data-transfer on bluetooth was disabled. Uh oh – wait a minute – Sprint, AT&T, T-Mobile & Alltel all offered bluetooth phones that were (and are) similarly disabled, but the marketing guys didn’t screw it up.

    And hey, you crass-talking buffoon, don’t forget – I worked for AT&T for over 20 years. You work where? 7-11? Or is that McDonald’s?
    I left there with a nice retirement package that still pays me and provides me insurance at no charge. Oops, I am with VZW, why? Because it is a superior product! Have had multi-line service with several carriers for my business, why? Because they offered a better deal and covered the local area satisfactorily.

    Don’t go proving me your stupidity by shoving 2-3 year old news from half-baked sites about issues with VZW – I can send you press releases directly from AT&T saying they are trying to figure out why they
    ve been having mysterious troubles with their Berry network since the beginning of the year. Same connection Sprint, VZW, T-Mobile & Alltel are using, yet Berry users have lost service multiple times since the beginning of the year. According to RIM, the other big carriers have seen two outages, both related to RIM upgrades, in the past 18 months.

    CDMA is still the superior technology, due to it being all digital and is extremely more secure than GSM in terms of eavesdropping and hack/clone capability. GSM uses multiple digital/analog conversions and is as easy to clone as walking by your phone with a code scanner, then cloning your SIM card.

    I have a Uniden digital scanner (circa 1985) that can and does pick up GSM conversations. It cannot pick up CDMA conversations.

    Want network speed and quality? TV on Sprint & VZW. Where is it on T-Mobile/AT&T? Think about all this when you see a network like KDDI Japan (CDMA) with HD quality video playback AND picturephone service on their network. It’s not a possibility on GSM, which is one of the reasons why KDDI is growing at 9 times the clip of major competitor DoCoMo Japan (GSM).

    What are you going to do when VZW & Sprint hit the market with LTE in a year or two, promising to completely cripple the data transfer speeds that we currently see? What’s the GSM response? UMTS-HSDPA, which has a theoretical max download speed that is less than 20% the working speed of LTE.

    And hey, chump – before you go claiming that LTE is a version of GSM, forget it – it isn’t. The dummy sites out there claim it is, but it isn’t. Anyone savvy in the engineering aspects of wireless knows better. It takes the SIM-card concept, adds some additional bands to make seamless roaming across CDMA & GSM networks possible, while retaining the security of the all-digital CDMA network.

    Hey hellno, you’re a fool who has no trouble making certain everyone knows you’re a fool. One of these days, you might get past your freshman year of high-school, get a job and have mom & dad stop paying for your cellphone. When that happens, you might try something other than mommy’s choice of that AT&T iPhone you drool over the chance of using for long enough to wow your friends.

    Until then, and until your mobile phone bills exceed $1000/mo like mine do, go chat about something you might have half a prayer comprehending – Hanna Montana might be a good start.

  • Ralph

    Oh – one other thing there, hellidiot…

    Why is it my XV6800 not only has full bluetooth, but full wi-fi and (gasp) is running full GPS software that isn’t called VZNavigator?

    A very good friend is really jealous that he is stuck with Telenav on his Tilt.

    Barney the Purple Dinosaur might be above your head there, little one…

  • hellno

    More rambling of the vealot fanboy club… Ralph, Marcus, bluehorseshoe, and the verizon “can you hear me now” guy all had a special get together tonight at http://www.powderpuffmarkable.com The verizon FUD stroked them all (bluehorseshoe brought the lube) making them all believe the BS about verizon. They finished the night with the cheerleading cry “fanboy powers unite” and played a little game of can you hear me now.

    The rest of us know the REALITY, that the other providers can and DO provide as good if not better service than verizon AND don’t cripple customer devices.

    The rest of us know the REALITY, that the other providers can and DO provide as good if not better service than verizon AND allow consumers to have devices with all features and functions working as the manufacture designed the device.

    The rest of us know the TRUTH and REALITY about GSM and know Ralph is still WRONG about everything in his post.

    Betamax was a superior technology too, but it was proprietary too. GSM/LTE Vodafone’s choice will have it’s partner verizon upgrade it’s network to the global standard GSM. It’s no secret Voda has no use for cdma and can see it’s a dead end technology, qualcomm has driven cdma into the ground with its greed and arrogance no one including verizon wants to have anything to do with qualcomm and it’s proprietary cdma technology. verizon is upgrading it’s network to GSM/LTE as Voda has directed. Voda with verizon upgrading the GSM/LTE will give it’s customers a global compatible native network. Ralph how sad it must be to claim your at one time were such a big shot with att yet not have the least bit understanding of GSM and why GSM IS the technology of global wireless communication. The link for GSM faq’s given should have given you basic knowledge but since your part of the bluehorseshoe and the Marcus Aurelius ignoramus club we wouldn’t expect any different. What’s funny is the moronic defense of a dead technology like cdma and the resistance vealot’s to standard, open, global technology GSM. Soon cdma will be only a bad memory of what was wrong in the NA wireless industry.

    Whats it like Ralph posting BS only to find it’s all fanboy FUD and having zero credibility? Luckly the TRUTH and FACTS about the wireless industry are easy to LEARN from if you chose to do so. However know it’s tough for ignorant fanboys to LEARN from the TRUTH instead of FUD.

    Fanboy Marcus Aurelius, you next….

    Where is your mythical “comparable service is in this area.” Where you feel only verizon works? Oregon?

    We all love the typical fanboy “I was the only one with service story” but come on…. Where is your other mythical “comparable service is in this area.” “Last weekend at a dinner at my sister-in-laws house out in the country, I was the only person who had cell phone reception at the house.” Where you feel only verizon works? Find it a little strange those that live there have other providers which you claim don’t work there. Maybe your the only on with the magical service since you believe the FUD of the “can you hear me now” guy…. I know of many a place where verizon doesn’t work where other providers DO work, I know of many places where no provider works. Your fanboy fantasy stories are as lame as your name calling of others. The main thing you continue to miss is this is a thread talking about the rumored cdma Curve, verizon will neuter it like verizon has neutered all it’s other BB’s and other devices in the past. Which Blackberry do you own Marcus Aurelius? Have you compared it’s functions and features with another providers BB of the same model? Have you noticed whats missing? The cdma Curve (like all cdma BB’s is a year late to the party) Those in the know, know a year in the cellular industry is like ancient history, the cdma curve is old before it’s even born. There are many good reasons why RIM spends very little time and money on cdma devices, verizon’s crippling is just one of the reasons, the other is cdma technology is and has been in decline as service provider after service provider is upgrade their networks to standard, open, global GSM.

    Its really swell you feel verizon works better for you in your area, but again that does not make verizon better that other service providers which provide service which is as good as if not better than verizon in many places AND those providers allow customers to own devices as designed by the manufacture with no crippling.

    Sorry vealots TRUTH and REALITY before vealot fanboy hopes and dreams.

  • bluehorseshoe

    @ Robb,

    Well, there you go. If that doesn’t tell you that he’s off the wall, demented, and has started a fan club for himself, then I don’t ever see this ending. It’s one thing to debate which I believe everyone is up for, but when it involves uneducated “I’m right, you’re wrong” reaponces, then it becomes an issue, as it has been for the past year.

  • Ralph

    Agreed.

  • Marcus Aurelius

    Certifiable nutcase, no doubt. I know what works in my area. My friends and relatives stuck in contracts with other providers know what works in my area. VZW just started service here last summer. It is killing the competition as people come off contracts with lesser providers and are switching.

    EVERY person at the dinner I referenced, wanted to use my phone. Yes…they lived in a house, bought a house, where they knew they had no cell phone service but that was the not an issue they could solve UNTIL VZW came into our area.

    I’ve never told anyone to do anything with their phones or providers, unlike hellno who wants everyone to leave VZW. All I’ve ever said is VZW is the BEST PROVIDER FOR ME and I wish he would stop telling me I’m wrong about that. Why would he care what I use and how would he know what works here the best unless he lives here.

    He is just a lunatic I-Phone lover who doesn’t understand that in the real world of business, if you have a cell phone it HAS TO WORK. Screw the features, you have to have call service. That has been my consistent arguement and he just doesn’t get it.

    He is blinded by his hatred.

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