CDMA BlackBerry Curve Pictures Popping Up All Over The Internet

hellno
#1. February 12th, 2008, at 4:26 AM.

“the CDMA BlackBerry Curve pretty much looks like any other BlackBerry Curve.”

Until verizon gets it’s hands on it to cripple and remove features, functions and put on the verizon UI. Know others noticed Sprint like icon’s in the pictures.

Sean
#3. February 12th, 2008, at 9:58 AM.

Yes!!!! Finally! My work contract is about up, i’ll make the push for the Curve(as long as it actually comes true)! Verizon’s coverage in my area is the best out of any carrier.

Ed
#4. February 12th, 2008, at 10:36 AM.

I would have to agree about the CDMA Pearl and SureType. I hate SureType on my Verizon Pearl, it worked great on the origianl Pearl but this new version is just horrible. I am also considering moving to the CDMA Curve when it comes out on Verizon.

global guy
#5. February 12th, 2008, at 11:21 AM.

does anyone know if it will be a dual cdma/gsm world edition?

bluehorseshoe
#6. February 12th, 2008, at 2:25 PM.

Now we’re talking. Crippled or not, I’m about the service. No sense using a non-crippled device if I’m going to worry about dropping a call because I moved away from the window. Besides, the Pearl isn’t bad at all on VZW.

As for the Suretype, I haven’t noticed a difference between the original Pearl and the Pearl on VZW. I’m curious as to what others are coming up with…please let me know. I’d be interested to hear.

Eric
#7. February 12th, 2008, at 6:05 PM.

My new-every-two is up with VZW and I’d like to get something better than my 8703, but the keyboard on the 8830 sucks. I hope the Curve comes out soon. The keyboard on the Curve is much closer to the 8703.

hellno
#8. February 12th, 2008, at 6:38 PM.

Ed
#4. February 12th, 2008, at 10:36 AM.
“I hate SureType on my Verizon Pearl, it worked great on the origianl Pearl but this new version is just horrible”

Ed is there any info to support this or is this just your personal opinion? IMO SureType is just about as good as it gets, though IMO the iPhone’s Predictive Text Entry is on the same high level. I doubt RIM’s SureType on verizon branded Pearl’s is any different making it work worse than it’s brothers and sister Pearls.

Thought
#9. February 12th, 2008, at 7:33 PM.

Finally…this baby is mine when it comes out!

jhp2
#11. February 12th, 2008, at 9:29 PM.

New every two is up for me so i will be at the front of th eline for this baby. Especially as my 7130 resets several times daily!

Justin
#12. February 14th, 2008, at 4:59 PM.

Press Releases on RIM website

09/07/2006 RIM announces Pearl
11/30/2006 Pearl comes to Cingular
10/01/2007 RIM announces CDMA Pearl
11/01/2007 CDMA Pearl for VZW

05/03/2007 RIM announces Curve
05/30/2007 Curve comes to Cingular (AT&T)
00/00/2008 RIM announces CDMA Curve
00/00/2008 CDMA Curvefor VZW

If the Curve follows the same pattern as the Pearl, RIM will announce the CDMA Curve about a month before the carrier press release. Hopefully we see that announcement soon!

BB
#13. February 15th, 2008, at 6:40 PM.

so if it follows we wont see it till july or maybe august?????????

Ralph
#14. February 16th, 2008, at 2:37 AM.

Until verizon gets it’s hands on it to cripple and remove features, functions and put on the verizon UI.

All of the carriers tweak these units. Verizon gets hammered for restricting GPS to VZNav only, but AT&T gets a free ride when they restrict GPS to TeleNav only. Sprint’s service & coverage is so bad, they’ve not seen an increase in customers in how long? Their very solvency is in question, expecially since their acquisition of Nextel. I do travel outside of major metro areas and into rural America where the only phones that work are AT&T (maybe) and VZW (always).

And I’ve never seen the VZW UI on a Berry device or any real smartphone, for that matter.

Give us some real feedback instead of baseless VZW attacks.

does anyone know if it will be a dual cdma/gsm world edition?

Um, no - in all probability it will not be. That is what the 8800 series is for. The twin radio functionality takes up too much room to include both plus camera AND have the smaller case.

Besides - have you seen the rates to use the GSM card on the 8830s? It would be cheaper for me to get off at Heathrow, grab a prepaid from a vending machine and go with that.

hellno
#15. February 16th, 2008, at 2:56 PM.

Ralph,

WRONG.

Verizon has a long history of restricting and crippling many things from it’s customers branded devices. GPS is just the newest in a long string of verizon’s crippling and it happens to be taking function away from RIM BB devices branded only for verizon. None of this is “baseless”, like others before you, it would be good for you to learn before posting FUD which has been proven time and time again as BS.

Look up the meaning of autonomous GPS. All BB’s with GPS have autonomous GPS, which works completely independent of the wireless service provider. The only reason to cripple it is for verizon is to be able to nickle and dime it’s customers for a service which the device is built by RIM to do for free.

Verizon gets me again with a disabled feature
http://jkontherun.blogs.com/jkontherun/2007/07/verizon-gets-me.html

By the way your in for a real treat when you get to see the vzw UI and the way it’s forced on verizon customers. Thats how McWireless does it…

Sir Charge
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-pzBloyvAk

Sir Charge returns!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=4W6pBNDEao8&feature=related

Sir Charge, III - Whac-A-Charge!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=VDvXaUH6NNo&feature=related

bluehorseshoe
#16. February 16th, 2008, at 3:12 PM.

Why do you type wrong is all caps? Are you retarded? The guy states an opinion like everyone else and you then enter the scene with your usual anti this, that, and the other. You’re the biggest offender on this board based on your poor grasp of the English language and inability to properly articulate a point.

You don’t know crap about IT, phones, or anything else for that matter. So please reply to this post so you can continue to prove my point. I’m sure you will.

hellno
#17. February 16th, 2008, at 4:24 PM.

Is this opinion? “All of the carriers tweak these units. Verizon gets hammered for restricting GPS to VZNav only, but AT&T gets a free ride when they restrict GPS to TeleNav only.”

NOPE… Autonomous GPS, we’ve been over this before when you too made the incorrect STATEMENT. Either way it’s incorrect and the TRUTH was posted to show Ralph he had it wrong.

Didn’t know bluehorseshoe was here to correct and give opinions on grammer but hey he might as well since when it comes to bluehorseshoe and all the FUD he posts (which gets corrected by those in the know) his fragile ego needs something to post about. As we all can see he admits he has no clue about “IT, phones, or anything else for that matter” and sadly feel the need to take things personal when those in the know post TRUTH which doesn’t go along with his personal hopes and dreams.

Autonomous GPS, verizon DOES cripple and remove features and functions. NOTHING in that statement is without base in REALITY.

FACTS before bluehorseshoe FUD.

bluehorseshoe
#18. February 16th, 2008, at 5:26 PM.

@ hellidiot…

OK. Here’s a FACT. You’re a RETARD. I probably shouldn’t even call you that because that would be giving the rest of the mentally challeneged population a bad name.

How many walls have you run into with those blinders on? Do you wear a lamp shade over your head? Does your mother put a leash on you when she takes you outside? Have you ever been accused of being the missing link? How many times have you wiped your ass to only realize it’s the same stuff that comes out of your mouth?

hellno
#19. February 16th, 2008, at 7:23 PM.

bluehorseshoe once again thanks for staying on topic and acting like a adult. Now again, stop using RIMarkable as your personal toilet. Your fragile ego is making you diarrhea post again you must be desperate for attention today. Again as in other threads come up with a intelligent thought and try to show with TRUTH why things are not as they really are.

Do you dispute that RIM puts autonomous GPS in their GPS Blackberries?
Do you dispute that autonomous GPS works without any help from the service provider?
Do you dispute that RIM’s cdma berry’s w/GPS have autonomous GPS?
Do you dispute that verizon’s berry’s have functions and features crippled and removed that work on sprint’s (and all other Berry’s in that family)?
Do you dispute that verion’s past and present anti-consumer actions make anything posted “baseless”?

FACTS before bluehorseshoe fiction.

Again bluehorseshoe your personal comments and ignorance yet again have gotten you pointed out and given you the attention you so crave. You gotta pay to play and your ignorance has put you in debt, your grandstanding, FUD posting and abuse of RIMarkable and fellow posters who want to discuss the TRUTH not excuses and our resident troll which turns discussion personal when we don’t agree with the never ending ignorance known as bluehorseshoe.

No excuses, NO bluehorseshoe FUD.

bluehorseshoe
#20. February 16th, 2008, at 7:54 PM.

Do you dispute that you’re an idiot? 10 out of 10 on this board think that you’re an idiot, and I’m sure if Jobbs found out you use an iPhone, he’d take yours away.

You bore me.

Ralph
#21. February 17th, 2008, at 1:08 AM.

Not sure who or what you are ‘hellno” but I am positive no one has ever accused you of being intelligent.

Yes, VZW does cripple features, but so does AT&T, Telus, Vodafone, Sprint and others. I’ve spoken to many an AT&T rep about using GPS software on their Berry devices and they say it can’t be done. I know several people WITH AT&T Berry & WM devices and all they can have is Telenav, just like all I can have is VZNav on VZW.

For the record, I’ve had a half-dozen smart phones on VZW and not a one has VZW branding that can’t be removed and none have had their software locked out. In fact, the BB devices with GPS aren’t difficult to unlock the GPS function in them - but you will void your warranty and you will have to redo your hack each time you update the software. VZW is no worse than any other carrier when it comes to smartphones.

Now, if you get your BB from VZW and pay full price, it isn’t a difficult thing to have them unlock the GPS for you… but anyone who does so is a fool with their money.

If you are really running an iPhone, you of all poeople shouldn’t be talking about configured, crippled and locked down devices, as the iPhone is one of the worst offenders - ask anyone whose iPhone was bricked by a software ‘update’ - and if you worked for AT&T for as long as I did, you would know that one of the LAST companies to ever allow you anything extra on your service for free is AT&T. Second would be any of the former Bell companies, of which VZW is one of.

Fools and their money are easily parted, as evidenced by the people who not only bought an iPhone, but who think it is A) a smartphone, B) an open platform or C) on a secure network. It is a multifunction MP3 device that happens to have a phone feature built in. Apple has never been as open or as fluid in their offerings as Microsoft or vanilla UNIX. GSM, while open, is easy to hack - I would NEVER share credit card info on a GSM phone and I would never assume that my phone connection wasn’t cloned by some crook somewhere.

The worst coverage network on the planet is Sprint and I’d rather have a broken Razr on Sprint than an iPhone on AT&T.

You remind me of an old neighbor I once had - all mouth, no brains, no money and man -breasts - his was always best, even though it never was - but to listen to him, he swore his crap was better than your souffle. Did he have intelligence? Hellno!

bluehorseshoe
#23. February 17th, 2008, at 9:42 AM.

@ Ralph

(golf clap)

Very well done.

hellno
#25. February 17th, 2008, at 3:10 PM.

Ralph your statements are incorrect about everything. Every grandstanding statement you make above is FUD. Some easy proof of that is your head cheerleader aka RIMarkable’s resident ignorant troll bluehorseshoe agrees with you. Nice you feel you can follow bluehorseshoe and turn discussions personal too, I’ll be sure to point out your ignorance which at times equals bluehorseshoe’s since thats how you want to play the game.

“Yes, VZW does cripple features, but so does AT&T, Telus, Vodafone, Sprint and others”
Even though this is FALSE, is this a good enough excuse for verizon’s anti-consumer actions? There is a growing list of complaints against Verizon Wireless, some of which have matured into class action lawsuits. It’s a well known FACT that verizon and verizon only cripples and removes functions and features from it’s customers handsets.

“VZW is no worse than any other carrier when it comes to smartphones.”
Nope WRONG again, another FALSE, FUD statement.

Verizon Wireless Pulls Plug on BlackBerry 8830 GPS Features
And Some Other Ways the Company Has Nickel and Dimed Their Customers
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/327280/verizon_wireless_pulls_plug_on_blackberry.html

Verizon Still Crippling Bluetooth
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20060112/082257_F.shtml

Verizon cripples new RAZRs- why is anyone surprised?
http://jkontherun.blogs.com/jkontherun/2006/07/verizon_cripple.html

The Motorola v710: Verizon’s New Crippled Phone
http://pencomputing.com/wireless/motorolav710.html

“Now, if you get your BB from VZW and pay full price, it isn’t a difficult thing to have them unlock the GPS for you”
Nope WRONG again, another FALSE statement nice try again Ralph.

at&t’s BB’s with GPS works with Google Maps, BBMaps, the difference is unlike verizon’s branded BB’s you can actually work around at&t preference of telenav. all you can have is vznav on verizon because verizon has CRIPPLED the GPS on their branded BB’s as proven above.

Can you hear me now? Doubtful.

http://forums.crackberry.com/f61/rim-says-8830-gps-autonomous-1921/
http://news.techdirt.com/news/wireless/article/5948
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20070723/104637.shtml
http://jkontherun.blogs.com/jkontherun/2007/07/verizon-gets-me.html

You are also completely WRONG when it comes to every statement you make about the iPhone. Nothing is crippled, Apple handles the software and at&t handles the service. It’s obvious you have problems with Apple and with the revolutionary iPhone which has raised the bar on smartphones, so far up that no manufacture has been able to even come close to catching up. The iPhone is more than a smartphone it’s a handheld computer. The offical SDK coming out this month and the platform will be open for 3rd party developers. You could be confusing hacked iPhones which might have been bricked, but the FACTS have shown bricked phones were those which were hacked. Just like a newer firmware upgrade unbricks

New Firmware Fixes Previously Bricked iPhones
http://apple.slashdot.org/apple/08/01/18/1933219.shtml

As for your FUD about GSM not being secure, better LEARN the TRUTH about that too. The NSA finds it to be secure enough for their use, in fact:
“Is GSM secure? From the outset, GSM has been a system designed with stringent levels of inbuilt security. With constantly enhanced transmission protocols and algorithms added to the flexible and future proof platform, GSM remains the most secure public wireless standard in the world.”
http://www.gsmworld.com/technology/faq.shtml

Ralph with your post of FUD we have all seen your “crap souffle” which does smell. You have proven that your just about as ignorant as your cheerleader partner bluehorseshoe. Your poor “old neighbor” was right he was living next to ignorance.

Better to listen and learn than to FUD and show complete ignorance with fanboy false hopes and dreams. Glad you turned things personal now? Your ego posting FUD is “crap souffle”. RIMarkable is not http://www.PowderpuffMarkable.com your BS will be pointed out here by those in the know.

FACT before FUD “crap souffle” ala Ralph

hellno
#26. February 17th, 2008, at 3:39 PM.

Yet the FACT remains

“the CDMA BlackBerry Curve pretty much looks like any other BlackBerry Curve.”

Until verizon gets it’s hands on it to cripple and remove features, functions and put on the verizon UI.

Why RIM lets verizon cripple and remove features, functions and ugly up it’s blackberry with the verizon UI is still a mystery which by the way is a negative for RIM and consumers. Just one of many reasons why RIM wastes very little time with one or two available cdma phones, and those which RIM does manufacture are offered over a year after their standard, open, global GSM models are offered. Luckly Apple has also helped RIM (and others) showing how a top tier manufacture should take charge of the hardware and let the service provider only provide the service.

Caveat Emptor

bluehorseshoe
#27. February 17th, 2008, at 6:05 PM.

@ hellno

The only thing that I see crippled is your mental capacity.

Marcus Aurelius
#28. February 17th, 2008, at 10:35 PM.

Can I for the life of me figure out why the hell, hellno is here? Hellno!

He has such an obvious bug up his butt about VZW it is ridiculous. When somebody picks up a VZW phone and buys it, all he has to do is ask what he is getting and what he can do with the phone. If you don’t want it, don’t buy it. Simple. Why are you here again?

I have VZW because it WORKS! I get my phone calls and messages everywhere I go. When I had T-Mobile…I didn’t. When I had AT&T…it didn’t. I’ve never had SPRINT and I’m sure I won’t since it will probably be bought out by someone else before it completely collapses.

Why Hellno can’t understand that THE most important feature in a phone is the quality of reception. Nothing else matters 1% as much. SERVICE Hellno…SERVICE!

Last weekend at a dinner at my sister-in-laws house out in the country, I was the only person who had cell phone reception at the house. Nothing for the T-mobile people, nothing for the AT&T people.

Do you get it hellno? SERVICE!

I don’t give a rip what your bellyaching is about disable services. If you don’t like VZW…don’t use them.

I LOVE VZW.

I LOVE VZW.

I LOVE VZW!

The capitals and repeating lines was to bug the hell out of hellno!

Grow up buddy and stop wasting our time here on this board. There must be an AOL chat room for you to go and cry and moan about your problems.

Marcus

hellno
#29. February 17th, 2008, at 11:30 PM.

More excuses this time from verizon fanboy Marcus…. Marcus sees others acting up and getting attention and seems to need attention too, since you like to turn things around personal, you can bank on being treated the same. Every day we learn ignorance and being a verizon customer go hand in hand for some.

verizon shouldn’t be crippling and removing function and features from any phones especially RIM Blackberries. Fanboy hopes and dreams will not change the FACTS. verizon’s actions are not good for the customers and not good for Rim (or other manufactures) You can make every excuse which makes you feel better about your choice of service provider. I DO get it about verizon, I also know that verizon’s service is on par with other service providers this mythical fanboy nonsense about verizon is LAME. Verizon’s service coverage is no better than the rest. When you factor in the REALITY and FACTS of verizon crippling’s and feature and function removal that counts against any pro’s one might have of verizon.

Before you continue grandstand ego posting, FUD’ing and telling fellow members what to do you Marcus better learn the FACTS. Your lame capitals and repeating lines bugs no one but points out the ignorance which is Marcus. McWireless aka verizon with all it’s anti-consumer actions is a perfect fit for a ignorant customer like yourself.

hellno
#30. February 17th, 2008, at 11:31 PM.

Yet STILL the FACT remains

“the CDMA BlackBerry Curve pretty much looks like any other BlackBerry Curve.”

Until verizon gets it’s hands on it to cripple and remove features, functions and put on the verizon UI.

Why RIM lets verizon cripple and remove features, functions and ugly up it’s blackberry with the verizon UI is still a mystery which by the way is a negative for RIM and consumers. Just one of many reasons why RIM wastes very little time with one or two available cdma phones, and those which RIM does manufacture are offered over a year after their standard, open, global GSM models are offered. Luckly Apple has also helped RIM (and others) showing how a top tier manufacture should take charge of the hardware and let the service provider only provide the service.

Caveat Emptor

Marcus Aurelius
#31. February 18th, 2008, at 9:26 AM.

OK Hellno, now it is personal.

Re-read my post you lying sack of sh@t. I did not tell anyone what to do except you. I told you to move your crap to an AOL chat room and stop FUD’ING (whatever the hell that is) on this board.

I told everyone when buying a phone, check what features and services you want and then buy the phone you want. If you don’t like VZW…Don’t buy it!

I then explained very clearly the facts! The BEST SERVICE is the most important thing to me and VZW gives me the best service. What could be more simple than that you moron!

You are the one who is here with an agenda. You MUST work for AT&T, there can be no other reason in the world you would be here on your one man campaign to get people to switch from VZW. YOU are the one telling people what to do and what to believe.

I merely pointed out the absolute truth for me in my area. SERVICE is the key thing and VZW wins that war by a million miles. Why can’t you accept that and leave us alone?

Did VZW fire you and you had to go to the inferior network?

You are getting pathetic in your lunatic attempts to persuade everyone to hate VZW. The market place is very simple, it should be simple enough even you can understand it. BUY WHAT YOU WANT and leave everyone else alone to do the same!

Please stop lying about what I post. Everyone else can clearly read the truth of my statements and I will request your removal from this board if you continue to lie about what I post.

bluehorseshoe
#32. February 18th, 2008, at 10:44 AM.

@ Marcus

If you’ve been on this board for the past year, you’ll realize hellno is missing a chromosome. I’ll have fun with him from time to time, but the truth is he contradicts what he writes. We are all aware of his idiocy.

hellno
#33. February 18th, 2008, at 11:14 AM.

Nope your still WRONG on all of your statements Marcus Aurelius, but we wouldn’t expect anything different from another ignorant verizon fanboy who has lost touch with reality. Has anyone here at RIMarkable told you to you what to do? Has anyone even told you to get rid of your beloved verizon? You are rude, crude and show no respect so thats exactly the treatment you will receive back. What’s posted about verizon and it’s anti-consumer actions with it’s blackberry’s and other phones is the TRUTH and it’s the TRUTH which upsets you so much. However that gives you no special pass to turn things around personally and/or lash out at those who post the TRUTH. You are right one should buy what they want BUT a educated customer is a smart customer. By the looks of a few posts here from verizon customers it more than proves the point that verizon has at least some of the most ignorant consumers aka vealot sheep.

Do you think verizon doesn’t cripple and remove features, functions and put on the verizon UI? Are the FACTS not good enough for you? If you don’t believe whats posted here go thru the provided links and LEARN what others have to also say when they post the TRUTH about verizon and it’s crippling and remove features, functions. If YOU feel verizon works better for you great, but knowledge of the negatives is important. If YOU feel verizon works better for you great, but it doesn’t mean other service providers are not just as good.

Service providers, provide service which is on par more or less. Hopes and dreams of “inferior networks” is what verizon FUD (and verizon sheep) is built on.

Again no one has told you what to do, no one has told you to cancel your verizon account. BUT you (and the other sad few vealots here) have no special pass to turn things around personally and/or lash out at those who post the TRUTH. If you don’t like the TRUTH then let verizon know since it’s their anti-consumer and anti-RIM actions which are being posted about.

The TRUTH remains that verizon’s cdma Curve if ever released (and other verizon Blackberry’s) will have less functions and features and will have verizon crippling which doesn’t happen to RIM Blackberry’s from other providers, even those of the same exact model from Sprint.

Which is a negative for RIM and consumers and just one of many reasons why RIM wastes very little time with one or two available cdma blackberrys, and those which RIM does manufacture are offered over a year after their standard, open, global GSM models are offered.

The TRUTH about verizon really hurts the ignorant, even causes some to act out irrationally with rude and crude comments to fellow RIMarkable posters. Personal ignorance, and ignorance of the TRUTH about verizon’s anti-consumer actions does give vealots (verizon fanboys) any special pass to turn things around personally and/or lash out at those who post the TRUTH like a child throwing a temper tantrum.

A temper tantrum is an immature way of expressing anger. Temper tantrums range from whining and crying to screaming, kicking, hitting, and breath holding.

Caveat Emptor

FACTS and TRUTH before Marcus Aurelius’s tantrum’s, FUD, and fanboy games.

Marcus Aurelius
#34. February 18th, 2008, at 11:25 AM.

Hellno, You just don’t understand do you?

Here is the TRUTH!

VZW is a much better network for me and that is why I use them.

End of story!

Why can’t you get that?

It is ALL ABOUT HAVING SERVICE. Nothing else matters to me. If it does to you…go whine and complain about disabled features to people who care. I DON’T!

Give me the service or give me dead air. You can choose dead air if you wish! I don’t!

Stop whining and moaning and grow up!

hellno
#35. February 18th, 2008, at 11:35 AM.

Marcus, bluehorseshoe

Thanks to your ignorant, grandstanding, ego stroking posts we all know all too well the ignorance of you and your fellow sad few vealot fanboy sheep. The shame is your ignorant, grandstanding, ego stroking posts are a waste of Robb’s RIMarkable bandwidth and show just how rude and crude verizon fanboys can get when desperate for attention. Worse your ignorance about verizon and it’s anti-consumer actions is nothing but a green light to verizon to continue to cripple and remove features, functions and put on the verizon UI from RIM Blackberry’s. Is that ok? As fans of RIM and it’s blackberry’s is it ok for a heavy handed service provider to take consumer freedoms and cripple and remove features, functions and put on the verizon UI from RIM Blackberry’s? You and your ignorance is part of the problem. Smart consumers, those in the know bring the FACTS of anti-consumer actions out in the open to force corporations like verizon to conduct it’s business pro-consumer. Luckly judging from some posts here verizon doesn’t have to worry about any of their customers being smart consumers, or in the know.

Caveat Emptor

FACTS and TRUTH before Marcus, Ralph, and bluehorseshoe tantrum’s, FUD, and fanboy games.

Word is Marcus, Ralph, and bluehorseshoe are forming a ignorant vealot support group at http://www.powderpuffmarkable.com It’s a special place where nothing but vealot hopes and dreams about verizon is allowed. It’s easy to keep it that way since verizon has crippled and remove features, functions and put on the verizon UI on everything there. It’s part of the verizon walled garden with “unlimited” (aka 5mb) of verizon reality per vealot.

hellno
#36. February 18th, 2008, at 11:39 AM.

Yet STILL the FACT remains, since the thread is about the rumored cdma Curve, not about anyones hopes and dreams of verizon service.

“the CDMA BlackBerry Curve pretty much looks like any other BlackBerry Curve.”

Until verizon gets it’s hands on it to cripple and remove features, functions and put on the verizon UI.

Why RIM lets verizon cripple and remove features, functions and ugly up it’s blackberry with the verizon UI is still a mystery which by the way is a negative for RIM and consumers. Just one of many reasons why RIM wastes very little time with one or two available cdma phones, and those which RIM does manufacture are offered over a year after their standard, open, global GSM models are offered. Luckly Apple has also helped RIM (and others) showing how a top tier manufacture should take charge of the hardware and let the service provider only provide the service.

Caveat Emptor

Marcus Aurelius
#37. February 19th, 2008, at 1:10 AM.

Verizon Wireless’ ongoing network investment now totals more than $442 million in Oregon over the past seven years. The company has invested more than $44 billion nationwide since the company was formed – on average $5.5 billion each year.

“We are so confident in our network that we are inviting new customers to take a 30-day test drive,” said Kurtzman. “If they are not completely satisfied with their experience they can take their number to another carrier and we will refund their money for calls, equipment, activation fee and taxes.”

Verizon Wireless’ national network reliability is also supported by industry-leading redundancy and maintenance measures, which have proven particularly valuable during natural disasters and other emergencies. In fact, high flood waters along the Oregon coast late last year had minimal impact on Verizon Wireless’ network.

Standard Verizon Wireless network reliability includes battery back-up power at all facilities as well as generators installed at all switching facilities and many cell site locations. The company also operates a fleet of mobile generators and temporary cell sites, or cells-on-wheels, ready for deployment for emergencies.

When high flood waters hit Oregon last year, the company deployed a Cell on Wheels (COW) mobile cell site to Vernonia, Oregon to provide wireless network coverage to area residents and emergency responders.
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Clearly this is a company that is intent on screwing their customers by disabling features on phones.

However…I WANT THE SERVICE!

hellno
#39. February 19th, 2008, at 1:47 PM.

Yet what Marcus with his limited metal capacity has yet to get and is Yet STILL the FACT remains, since the thread is about the rumored cdma Curve, NOT about anyones hopes and dreams of verizon service. Posting verizon FUD quotes will NOT change that FACT.

“the CDMA BlackBerry Curve pretty much looks like any other BlackBerry Curve.”

Until verizon gets it’s hands on it to cripple and remove features, functions and put on the verizon UI.

To some like Marcus with his limited metal capacity paying a service provider monthly from anti-consumer device crippling and feature and funtion removal is OK. However take the fanboy out of the equation and big picture verizon’s crippling actions are not only unacceptable for most consumers (luckly many verizon customers are ignorant sheep like Marcus) and don’t know the crippling REALITY. verizon’s crippling actions are also unacceptable for the manufactures devices which are being crippled. Why should manufactures do their best in designing wireless devices knowing full well verizon is going to cripple and remove functions and features? Why should RIM do their best for their cdma customers only to have a heavy handed service provider like verizon cripple and remove functions and features?

Marcus with his limited metal capacity hasn’t figured out it’s alright to have both device function AND service. Many already know this.

RIM’s rumored upcoming Curve would be a much better device if verizon wouldn’t cripple and remove features, functions and ugly up it’s blackberry with the verizon UI.

Caveat Emptor….. luckly most have the metal capacity to understand.

Marcus Aurelius
#40. February 19th, 2008, at 2:27 PM.

If they have your mental capacity hellno, nobody will be able to reach them by cell phone!

You don’t get it, you never will get it. SERVICE is the KEY! Not your infantile features you like to play with. Without service, you have nothing. Can I explain it any more clearly to you?

Doesn’t matter. You are as thick as a brick and will merely try to go off topic again. It is YOU who pops up on every thread and bashes VZW. I know this thread is about the curve but what were your posts about? Bashing Verizon.

Please don’t respond. You won’t say a single thing of value.

hellno
#41. February 19th, 2008, at 7:40 PM.

Yet what Marcus with his limited metal capacity has yet to get is you can have SERVICE and FEATURES and FUNCTIONS. But Marcus with his limited metal capacity wouldn’t know that as a verizon fanboy. The other providers are more than able to provide both

Marcus Aurelius
#42. February 19th, 2008, at 10:09 PM.

Wrong. How many times have I told you…I get no T-mobile or AT&T in many places around here where I DO get Verizon.

Stop lying. You know nothing about what comparable service is in this area.

You are absolutely crazy and you do not know what you are talking about.

Stick your I-phone where your brains are!

bluehorseshoe
#43. February 20th, 2008, at 12:09 AM.

@ hellidiot

How many times can you refer to the word mental capacity in one paragraph? And more importantly, why are you lifting my lines? I phrased mental capacity sometime ago, specially reserved for your moronic tirades. Are you lacking in the creative arena where you need to begin stealing my lines reserved for you? Don’t make me come down to Penn Station and evict you? Or are you the guy on 43rd street who plugs his computer into a lamp post?

The message is clear…you’re an idiot an everyone here knows it.

Marcus Aurelius
#44. February 20th, 2008, at 12:40 AM.

AMEN bluehorseshoe!

Ralph
#45. February 20th, 2008, at 12:51 AM.

Has anyone else noticed hellno’s refusal to admit anything he says might be incorrect? He goes so far as to only reference sites from 2+ years ago or those sites dedicated to hating VZW.

Its like telling me to go look at Mustang Monthly for why the Camaro is junk.

Hey hellno - instead of referring me to your fanboy sites (I can spot them by their URL so i don’t have to visit them to see what kind of gullible fool you really are), why don’t you go to the AT&T site and find out how many of their Berry devices you can load with your own turn-by-turn GPS software.

The VZW bluetooth suit you’re so fond of touting? Gee, I was in on that one - it included Motorola on the V710 phone, because of joint advertising that neglected to tell you that data-transfer on bluetooth was disabled. Uh oh - wait a minute - Sprint, AT&T, T-Mobile & Alltel all offered bluetooth phones that were (and are) similarly disabled, but the marketing guys didn’t screw it up.

And hey, you crass-talking buffoon, don’t forget - I worked for AT&T for over 20 years. You work where? 7-11? Or is that McDonald’s?
I left there with a nice retirement package that still pays me and provides me insurance at no charge. Oops, I am with VZW, why? Because it is a superior product! Have had multi-line service with several carriers for my business, why? Because they offered a better deal and covered the local area satisfactorily.

Don’t go proving me your stupidity by shoving 2-3 year old news from half-baked sites about issues with VZW - I can send you press releases directly from AT&T saying they are trying to figure out why they
ve been having mysterious troubles with their Berry network since the beginning of the year. Same connection Sprint, VZW, T-Mobile & Alltel are using, yet Berry users have lost service multiple times since the beginning of the year. According to RIM, the other big carriers have seen two outages, both related to RIM upgrades, in the past 18 months.

CDMA is still the superior technology, due to it being all digital and is extremely more secure than GSM in terms of eavesdropping and hack/clone capability. GSM uses multiple digital/analog conversions and is as easy to clone as walking by your phone with a code scanner, then cloning your SIM card.

I have a Uniden digital scanner (circa 1985) that can and does pick up GSM conversations. It cannot pick up CDMA conversations.

Want network speed and quality? TV on Sprint & VZW. Where is it on T-Mobile/AT&T? Think about all this when you see a network like KDDI Japan (CDMA) with HD quality video playback AND picturephone service on their network. It’s not a possibility on GSM, which is one of the reasons why KDDI is growing at 9 times the clip of major competitor DoCoMo Japan (GSM).

What are you going to do when VZW & Sprint hit the market with LTE in a year or two, promising to completely cripple the data transfer speeds that we currently see? What’s the GSM response? UMTS-HSDPA, which has a theoretical max download speed that is less than 20% the working speed of LTE.

And hey, chump - before you go claiming that LTE is a version of GSM, forget it - it isn’t. The dummy sites out there claim it is, but it isn’t. Anyone savvy in the engineering aspects of wireless knows better. It takes the SIM-card concept, adds some additional bands to make seamless roaming across CDMA & GSM networks possible, while retaining the security of the all-digital CDMA network.

Hey hellno, you’re a fool who has no trouble making certain everyone knows you’re a fool. One of these days, you might get past your freshman year of high-school, get a job and have mom & dad stop paying for your cellphone. When that happens, you might try something other than mommy’s choice of that AT&T iPhone you drool over the chance of using for long enough to wow your friends.

Until then, and until your mobile phone bills exceed $1000/mo like mine do, go chat about something you might have half a prayer comprehending - Hanna Montana might be a good start.

Ralph
#46. February 20th, 2008, at 12:54 AM.

Oh - one other thing there, hellidiot…

Why is it my XV6800 not only has full bluetooth, but full wi-fi and (gasp) is running full GPS software that isn’t called VZNavigator?

A very good friend is really jealous that he is stuck with Telenav on his Tilt.

Barney the Purple Dinosaur might be above your head there, little one…

hellno
#47. February 20th, 2008, at 2:40 AM.

More rambling of the vealot fanboy club… Ralph, Marcus, bluehorseshoe, and the verizon “can you hear me now” guy all had a special get together tonight at http://www.powderpuffmarkable.com The verizon FUD stroked them all (bluehorseshoe brought the lube) making them all believe the BS about verizon. They finished the night with the cheerleading cry “fanboy powers unite” and played a little game of can you hear me now.

The rest of us know the REALITY, that the other providers can and DO provide as good if not better service than verizon AND don’t cripple customer devices.

The rest of us know the REALITY, that the other providers can and DO provide as good if not better service than verizon AND allow consumers to have devices with all features and functions working as the manufacture designed the device.

The rest of us know the TRUTH and REALITY about GSM and know Ralph is still WRONG about everything in his post.

Betamax was a superior technology too, but it was proprietary too. GSM/LTE Vodafone’s choice will have it’s partner verizon upgrade it’s network to the global standard GSM. It’s no secret Voda has no use for cdma and can see it’s a dead end technology, qualcomm has driven cdma into the ground with its greed and arrogance no one including verizon wants to have anything to do with qualcomm and it’s proprietary cdma technology. verizon is upgrading it’s network to GSM/LTE as Voda has directed. Voda with verizon upgrading the GSM/LTE will give it’s customers a global compatible native network. Ralph how sad it must be to claim your at one time were such a big shot with att yet not have the least bit understanding of GSM and why GSM IS the technology of global wireless communication. The link for GSM faq’s given should have given you basic knowledge but since your part of the bluehorseshoe and the Marcus Aurelius ignoramus club we wouldn’t expect any different. What’s funny is the moronic defense of a dead technology like cdma and the resistance vealot’s to standard, open, global technology GSM. Soon cdma will be only a bad memory of what was wrong in the NA wireless industry.

Whats it like Ralph posting BS only to find it’s all fanboy FUD and having zero credibility? Luckly the TRUTH and FACTS about the wireless industry are easy to LEARN from if you chose to do so. However know it’s tough for ignorant fanboys to LEARN from the TRUTH instead of FUD.

Fanboy Marcus Aurelius, you next….

Where is your mythical “comparable service is in this area.” Where you feel only verizon works? Oregon?

We all love the typical fanboy “I was the only one with service story” but come on…. Where is your other mythical “comparable service is in this area.” “Last weekend at a dinner at my sister-in-laws house out in the country, I was the only person who had cell phone reception at the house.” Where you feel only verizon works? Find it a little strange those that live there have other providers which you claim don’t work there. Maybe your the only on with the magical service since you believe the FUD of the “can you hear me now” guy…. I know of many a place where verizon doesn’t work where other providers DO work, I know of many places where no provider works. Your fanboy fantasy stories are as lame as your name calling of others. The main thing you continue to miss is this is a thread talking about the rumored cdma Curve, verizon will neuter it like verizon has neutered all it’s other BB’s and other devices in the past. Which Blackberry do you own Marcus Aurelius? Have you compared it’s functions and features with another providers BB of the same model? Have you noticed whats missing? The cdma Curve (like all cdma BB’s is a year late to the party) Those in the know, know a year in the cellular industry is like ancient history, the cdma curve is old before it’s even born. There are many good reasons why RIM spends very little time and money on cdma devices, verizon’s crippling is just one of the reasons, the other is cdma technology is and has been in decline as service provider after service provider is upgrade their networks to standard, open, global GSM.

Its really swell you feel verizon works better for you in your area, but again that does not make verizon better that other service providers which provide service which is as good as if not better than verizon in many places AND those providers allow customers to own devices as designed by the manufacture with no crippling.

Sorry vealots TRUTH and REALITY before vealot fanboy hopes and dreams.

bluehorseshoe
#48. February 20th, 2008, at 5:39 AM.

@ Robb,

Well, there you go. If that doesn’t tell you that he’s off the wall, demented, and has started a fan club for himself, then I don’t ever see this ending. It’s one thing to debate which I believe everyone is up for, but when it involves uneducated “I’m right, you’re wrong” reaponces, then it becomes an issue, as it has been for the past year.

Ralph
#49. February 20th, 2008, at 7:57 AM.

Agreed.

Marcus Aurelius
#50. February 20th, 2008, at 8:49 AM.

Certifiable nutcase, no doubt. I know what works in my area. My friends and relatives stuck in contracts with other providers know what works in my area. VZW just started service here last summer. It is killing the competition as people come off contracts with lesser providers and are switching.

EVERY person at the dinner I referenced, wanted to use my phone. Yes…they lived in a house, bought a house, where they knew they had no cell phone service but that was the not an issue they could solve UNTIL VZW came into our area.

I’ve never told anyone to do anything with their phones or providers, unlike hellno who wants everyone to leave VZW. All I’ve ever said is VZW is the BEST PROVIDER FOR ME and I wish he would stop telling me I’m wrong about that. Why would he care what I use and how would he know what works here the best unless he lives here.

He is just a lunatic I-Phone lover who doesn’t understand that in the real world of business, if you have a cell phone it HAS TO WORK. Screw the features, you have to have call service. That has been my consistent arguement and he just doesn’t get it.

He is blinded by his hatred.

Bill
#51. February 20th, 2008, at 8:59 AM.

Would you two just get a life and end this thing. This is a comment thread about the CDMA Pearl. Life was simpler when you could just move this to alt.flame.

Marcus Aurelius
#52. February 20th, 2008, at 9:43 AM.

Bill, it is actually about the CDMA CURVE…not the pearl. And I would love to discuss the Curve because I want one badly. BUT, everytime I say that some idiot tells me I should abandon VZW and go with a lesser service and I won’t stand for his nonsense.

When will the Curve come out? I don’t know but I’m past ready for it. I’ve read March or April in several places. Has anyone heard anything more up to the minute on those rumors. The pictures only whet you appetite.

hellno
#53. February 20th, 2008, at 1:32 PM.

bluehorseshoe it DOESN’T “involves uneducated “I’m right, you’re wrong” reaponces” The TRUTH, links and quotes have been posted to support the TRUTH and REALITY thats when the sad few ignorant fanboys, you bluehorseshoe, Marcus Aurelius, and Ralph start to thread crap and spread FUD and ignorance, while ignoring the REALITY and the TRUTH.

Marcus Aurelius now it’s the “lesser providers” excuses please, how ignorant will a fanboy get? All while the REALITY is providers are on par with quality service in most places. The great part of a forum thread Marcus Aurelius is one can look back and see your current statements are LIES about your past statements, just a vealot.

The FACT remains if verizon ever allows it’s customers to purchase the rumored cdma curve it won’t be until verizon gets it’s hands on it to cripple and remove features, functions and put on the verizon UI. Other providers have proven it doesn’t need to be that way. With other providers you can have pro-consumer actions getting BOTH un-crippled devices AND great service. How sad it must be to be a vealot and have to chose one or the other, while those in the know on with other service providers get both.

Caveat Emptor….. luckly most have the metal capacity to understand.

bluehorseshoe
#54. February 20th, 2008, at 1:49 PM.

Your grammar is uneducated, your links are uneducated, and you’re uneducated. If someone from the outside, who doesn’t read this blog had seen any of the comments you’ve posted, they’d think that you’re mentally challenged, struggle communicating with the outside world, and have parents that just don’t give a sh*t.

Don’t you get it? I think most of us here don’t give a damn as to who the provider is or what technology is being used (as long as it provides the service we’re looking for as individuals), as long as it provides good service for our needs. They all may differ based on our preferences, but you seem to enjoy dictating your beliefs to others for whatever reason. Maybe people would listen to you, but when you offend their beliefs, opinions and reasons, then it goes to a personal level.

There, I’ve given you the civil response. I’m not expecting one in return, but at least the readers will know who the cancer is. It’s certainly not Marcus, Ralph, myself, or the many others that have casted insults to your comments. Just think about it before you post your next comment.

hellno
#55. February 20th, 2008, at 3:09 PM.

It’s certainly IS Marcus, Ralph, and bluehorseshoe, who casted insults when they are upset about their ignorant FUD being proven wrong by TRUTH and REALITY. No where has anyone “dictated” or told anyone to change service providers.

It’s you sad three Marcus, Ralph, and bluehorseshoe who have turned a discussion about the rumored cdma curve into a vealot FUD fest of verizon is the best service provider crappola a FUD filled ignorant fest about GSM and the iPhone and a typical fanboy filled fest of temper tantrums and name calling. Each of you thread crapped and each desperately tried to change the topic instead of trying to deal with TRUTH and REALITY. RIMarkable and this thread have nothing to do with verizon’s service or fanboys verizon service hopes and dreams we are discussing RIM Blackberry devices here.

The TRUTH and REALITY about verizon proves that verizon DOES cripple and remove functions and features has been pointed out. The TRUE statement which got all three of your panties in a bunch will always remain true, it’s verizon’s anti-consumer and anti-manufacture (RIM in this case) actions.

In response to Robb’s statement “the CDMA BlackBerry Curve pretty much looks like any other BlackBerry Curve.”

“Until verizon gets it’s hands on it to cripple and remove features, functions and put on the verizon UI, was posted.

Being a RIM fan, is it not a problem that verizon is crippling away device functions RIM designs into it’s devices?

Being a consumer that bought a RIM Blackberry (or any other device) shouldn’t you the consumer expect the device to work as it was designed and manufactured? For example if the device has built in autonomous GPS (as the RIM cdma Pearl has, and Curve is rumored to have) which works without any need of service from the service provider, yet the greedy and arrogant service provider cripples the function and requires the customer to pay monthly to be allowed to use a GPS solution which is not as good as RIM’s built in, native GPS solution is that not a problem?

Are verizon’s lies not enough to clue even a vealot fanboy into verizon’s anti-consumer actions?

Verizon gets me again with a disabled feature
http://jkontherun.blogs.com/jkontherun/2007/07/verizon-gets-me.html

Bye-Bye CDMA
http://jkontherun.blogs.com/jkontherun/2007/11/verizon-picks-l.html
“Verizon picks LTE for 4G network, good-bye CDMA
First off, Verizon and Vodafone (part owner of VZW) would use the same network technologies which should allow for leveraging technical strategies. Secondly, this signals a move away from CDMA for Verizon, and not with a stop-gap of CDMA with SIM cards. Then you have the benefit as a Verizon customer to have your phone work many more places in the world, since a majority of coverage areas are GSM-based. Good times are coming people…trials are planned for LTE testing in 2008, which coincides with those “network technical specifications” that Verizon promises with their new open platform initiative.”

Sorry vealots TRUTH and REALITY before vealot fanboy hopes and dreams.

Marcus Aurelius
#56. February 20th, 2008, at 8:41 PM.

Here is the very first post in this thread and guess who posted:

““the CDMA BlackBerry Curve pretty much looks like any other BlackBerry Curve.”

Until verizon gets it’s hands on it to cripple and remove features, functions and put on the verizon UI. Know others noticed Sprint like icon’s in the pictures.”

Hellno keeps TELLING me who has the best service in this area he doesn’t know a damn thing. The people who live here know who has the best service. That is why they are choosing VZW. In your area maybe they are all the same, I don’t know. But one thing is sure, I have not lied about one thing in any posts I’ve made and I did not veer this thread off of topic on the CURVE, Hellno did!

Who is the liar? The facts speak for themselves.

hellno
#57. February 21st, 2008, at 6:22 PM.

Marcus Aurelius,

hellno is hardly “TELLING” you anything. You have your opinion and hellno has his opinion. What hellno is “TELLING” you is you might want to grow a slightly thicker skin if anothers post (based on many FACTS and TRUTHS) about your choice in service provider hurts you so. It’s one thing to get upset if BS is being thrown around but hellno is posting the TRUTH and has backed up the truth with several different resources of FACTS.

You DID veer this topic off topic. The topic was the rumored CURVE a blackberry DEVICE, the topic was NOT about what Marcus Aurelius’s favorite service provider is, nor was it about “SERVICE” nor weekend dinner trips in the country, nor your personal thoughts about hellno, nor does ANYONE with any sense post crap like:

“The capitals and repeating lines was to bug the hell out of hellno!”
“Grow up buddy and stop wasting our time here on this board.”
“lying sack of sh@t.”
” I told you to move your crap to an AOL chat room and stop FUD’ING (whatever the hell that is) on this board.”
“You are getting pathetic in your lunatic attempts to persuade everyone to hate VZW.”
“Stop whining and moaning and grow up!”
“You are absolutely crazy and you do not know what you are talking about.”
“Stick your I-phone where your brains are!”
“Certifiable nutcase, no doubt.”
“He is just a lunatic I-Phone lover who doesn’t understand that in the real world of business”
“everytime I say that some idiot tells me I should abandon VZW and go with a lesser service and I won’t stand for his nonsense.”
“But one thing is sure, I have not lied about one thing in any posts I’ve made and I did not veer this thread off of topic on the CURVE, Hellno did!” PLEASE… take responsibility for your own piss poor posts and poor attitude which caused YOUR well deserved treatment.

YOU crap post with just some examples about yet not expect to be told your posting skills and attitude is not at all acceptable. From your first post “The capitals and repeating lines was to bug the hell out of hellno!” you showed exactly how you wished to be spoken too by others, prior to that the thread was not about you, nor were any posts telling YOU to do anything.

“Who is the liar? The facts speak for themselves” They sure do Marcus Aurelius the FACTS sure do…..

hellno
#58. February 21st, 2008, at 6:39 PM.

PS… I’m contacting all the top tier smartphone designers and manufactures letting them know email and internet is just some of those “infantile features”. aka functions some verizon customers are jealous of since they are restricted from their free use. Which is the REAL problem, functions device manufactures design into devices shouldn’t be crippled away by a service provider looking to nickel and dime. Yeah the excuse is “its a business” yeah service providers are in business to serve their customers, NOT to take away functions built into consumers wireless devices, some of which have nothing to do with the service the provider is paid to provide. Bluetooth, MP3’s, GPS are just some examples of technologies verizon has crippled to force it’s customers to spend more money over and above the cost of wireless service.

As I said before most providers can handle both excellent service AND still allow customers uncrippled devices with functions and features as designed by the device manufacture. This is not a choice… unless your a verizon customer. If verizon does have the better service in your area the choice is made more difficult for you but it still is the TRUTH based on REALITY.

Stryder
#59. February 21st, 2008, at 8:58 PM.

You’re right hellno. We all agree with you 100%. You are obviously much smarter than anyone on this forum and maybe even the world. Now will you stop posting your rants.

hellno
#60. February 21st, 2008, at 9:16 PM.

Stryder, we’re all level players here. I don’t post AT a person unless the called upon. I also don’t TELL others what to do, just posting opinion and TRUTH and FACTS.

Stryder
#61. February 22nd, 2008, at 3:18 PM.

And we appreciate that, we just don’t need to hear the same opinion and TRUTH and FACTS 12 times.

hellno
#62. February 22nd, 2008, at 9:52 PM.

Styder,

No offense but with your problem of:

“we just don’t need to hear the same opinion and TRUTH and FACTS 12 times.”

You have a few easy options,
1) Move on to the next thread, which might or might not be discussing the TRUTH and FACTS which seem for some strange reason to personally offend a few, even though the TRUTH and FACTS being posted are about wireless devices or wireless service providers.

2)Read, learn and discuss on topic, not make personal posts.

3)There is always http://www.powderpuffmarkable.com

BTW who are these “we’s” you post of?

We’re all level players here Stryder and I sure don’t see anyone posting personal posts calling you out to tell you what you can or can’t post about.

Marcus Aurelius
#63. February 23rd, 2008, at 9:25 AM.

Hellno posted,
“YOU crap post with just some examples about yet not expect to be told your posting skills and attitude is not at all acceptable. From your first post “The capitals and repeating lines was to bug the hell out of hellno!” you showed exactly how you wished to be spoken too by others, prior to that the thread was not about you, nor were any posts telling YOU to do anything.”

Ignoring the fact that none of those seem to be complete sentences with any semblance of grammar, here is what Hellno has posted on this thread:

“Ralph your statements are incorrect about everything. Every grandstanding statement you make above is FUD. Some easy proof of that is your head cheerleader aka RIMarkable’s resident ignorant troll bluehorseshoe agrees with you. Nice you feel you can follow bluehorseshoe and turn discussions personal too, I’ll be sure to point out your ignorance which at times equals bluehorseshoe’s since thats how you want to play the game.”
“Ralph with your post of FUD we have all seen your “crap souffle” which does smell. You have proven that your just about as ignorant as your cheerleader partner bluehorseshoe. Your poor “old neighbor” was right he was living next to ignorance.”
“McWireless aka verizon with all it’s anti-consumer actions is a perfect fit for a ignorant customer like yourself.
Nope your still WRONG on all of your statements Marcus Aurelius, but we wouldn’t expect anything different from another ignorant verizon fanboy who has lost touch with reality.
To some like Marcus with his limited metal capacity paying a service provider monthly from anti-consumer device crippling and feature and funtion removal is OK. However take the fanboy out of the equation and big picture verizon’s crippling actions are not only unacceptable for most consumers (luckly many verizon customers are ignorant sheep like Marcus) and don’t know the crippling REALITY.
Marcus with his limited metal capacity …
More rambling of the vealot fanboy club… Ralph, Marcus, bluehorseshoe, and the verizon “can you hear me now” guy all had a special get together tonight at http://www.powderpuffmarkable.com The verizon FUD stroked them all (bluehorseshoe brought the lube) making them all believe the BS about verizon. They finished the night with the cheerleading cry “fanboy powers unite” and played a little game of can you hear me now. ”

—————-

It seems every post hellno makes is an insult and exercise in name calling and belittling comments. And he wonders why he receives the same in response?

He still missed the point of everyone of my posts…VZW gives me better service! There is no reason to bash VZW. Buy something else if you don’t like them. I do like them since I get all my calls.

Seems simple. But he will not let anyone make that choice with out insulting and demeaning them as being ignorant. That seems very adult, fair and intelligent to me.

Thanks for nothing hellno.

hellno
#64. February 23rd, 2008, at 1:38 PM.

Well it seems someone’s mommy allowed little Marcus Aurelius time on the computer again, and he’s still desperate for attention.

Nice try posting TRUE quotes about YOU by others very original….. NOT

Sadly since you still don’t get it Marcus Aurelius YOU posted like a ignorant big shot from post number one and you showed everyone here at RIMarkable your true self. You also showed others how you’d like them to bring down posts to your level. Your not necessarily ignorant because you have verizon, but you Marcus Aurelius are ignorant because you thread crap, and on top of that when you call others out who are in the know for posting the FACTS and TRUTH making your ignorance really show. Marcus Aurelius there is more proof to your ignorance, YOU get upset over the FACTS and TRUTH being posted about a wireless service provider, making you so upset you choose to personally lash out at others, tell lies, and also have delusions people are telling you to change service providers. If the FACTS and TRUTH being posted about verizon are making you feel that way then it’s YOU Marcus Aurelius learning of verizon’s crippling and function and feature removal which is thinking that. Not once did anyone tell you to change your service provider….. Do you know why? BECAUSE this thread is NOT about Marcus Aurelius and his wet dream of service providers the thread IS ABOUT the rumored cdma Curve DEVICE.

Poor Marcus Aurelius still has yet to get that his whole verizon service defense cry is a thread crap since this thread is about the rumored RIM cdma CURVE.

Most providers can handle both excellent service AND still allow customers uncrippled devices with functions and features as designed by the device manufacture. This is not a choice… unless your a verizon customer.

kendel
#65. February 23rd, 2008, at 2:58 PM.

will you guys shut up already hellno your wrong get over it and move on with your life

hellno
#66. February 23rd, 2008, at 4:36 PM.

kendel… Sorry the TRUTH and FACTS say hellno is RIGHT. Thanks for that on topic addition to the thread, however if you have an issue perhaps moving on to another thread? Here at the cdma Rumor of the Curve thread we’re busy talking about how verizon will cripple and remove features and functions. Not only will the poor RIM Blackberry Curve for cdma be a cdma phone, but it will be a year late to the party from it’s GSM brothers and it’s not a stretch by any means to know Sprint will release it pretty much as RIM designed it, while verizon will cripple and remove features and functions before it allows any of it’s customers to own one. Service is important as little Marcus Aurelius keeps screaming during his temper tantrums, the REALITY is most providers can handle both excellent service AND still allow customers uncrippled devices with functions and features as designed by the device manufacture. This is not a choice… unless your a verizon customer, if anything is “wrong” verizon’s anti-consumer actions are “wrong” to both the customer AND RIM.

bluehorseshoe
#67. February 23rd, 2008, at 8:55 PM.

You’re right hellno, this is about the rumored RIM Curve on CDMA. What makes you think Verizon shouldn’t be part of the discussion since they are one of the two CDMA carriers?

J.Polanco
#68. February 24th, 2008, at 11:48 AM.

Any more updates on the CDMA Curve?

hellno
#69. February 25th, 2008, at 10:30 AM.

bluehorseshoe, your absolutely right when the thread’s about the rumored RIM DEVICE the cdma Curve why not discuss the DEVICE as the device will be implemented and/or controlled (sadly in the case of verizon’s customers) I’d even go so far to think you’d agree RIMarkable is more a forum focused on hardware. Lets face the facts most here like their Blackberry’s because they are loaded with well thought out features. Lets also not forget RIM’s devices are available on many service providers both GSM and cdma. While at&t has the most RIM BB customers, t-mo gets the device roll-outs first for early adopters (There are more than a few good reasons why RIM introduces it’s GSM BB’s a year or more before the cdma devices are built) The sad truth is when it comes to the cdma BB’s not only are they a year or more late to the party it’s well known Sprint releases it’s branded BB’s pretty much stock as designed and built (hardware and software) by RIM. This is not the case when it comes to the Blackberry’s verizon allows it’s customers to buy and activate on it’s network. It’s surprising that some have no clue about verizon crippling and removing features and functions, while putting on a IMO UGLY UI on out poor RIM Blackberry (and many other devices). Anyone with a Treo ever notice the tried and true email program available on all Palm Treo’s (VersaMail) is missing only on verizon branded Treo’s? It was replaced by verizon’s “Wireless Sync” which by the way added bugs to the Treo by occasionally disabling HotSync. It’s also surprising that in 2008 some still think they still have to chose between features and service.

With Voda’s urging and verizon dumping proprietary cdma for GSM LTE and hopefully the device manufactures are all gaining some power over the service providers when it come to who controls the device and it’s software.

The point I made in the top response remains true… The pictures might make the rumored cdma Curve look “like any other BlackBerry Curve.” Looks (other than the IU) might stay the same, But when verizon gets it’s hands on it to cripple and remove features, functions the rumored cdma Curve will be different than “any other BlackBerry Curve.” Some might not care, Some might not know, but IMO changes to devices by service providers are never, ever a positive thing. RIM and every other device designer and manufacture should be allowed to do what they do best without any interference from a service provider making the device less than what it was when designed and built. Sadly the truth has proven this is not the case when it comes to verizon and it’s devices including the RIM BB.

The customer should not have to accept a loss of DEVICE features and functions at the hands of greedy and arrogant service providers, most have found we don’t have to. Some of us found out it might look like “any other BlackBerry Curve”, or BB Pearl, but it’s missing features and functions which were designed and built into our BB DEVICE by RIM.

Marcus Aurelius
#70. February 25th, 2008, at 8:41 PM.

Simple question Hellno. (It has to be simple so you can understand it). Would you rather sit in your house and stare at your wonderfully loaded RIM BB and wish you could use it but can’t because of poor service quality, OR, would you rather have a phone that worked so you could make and receive calls?

That is the only question that is important to me. Do I wish that VZW offered the Curve fully loaded with every available features? YES.
Will I accept a Curve that has some altered or deleted features but I get great service with? YES.

That’s all I’ve been saying the whole time. If I lived in a Metropolitan area that offered good service from AT&T I would definitely consider them. I have in fact called them and tried to encourage them to expand their service to my area but they have no plans to so far. T-mobile in this area is very spotty and drops calls all the time. Verizon works great.

What would you do if you were in my position? Boycott Verizon and not have a working phone you can depend on, or use them and accept the limitations?

Simple questions,

Marcus

hellno
#71. February 25th, 2008, at 10:13 PM.

Marcus Aurelius “It has to be simple so you can understand it” yet you still don’t understand and it’s been explained to you in several posts. Your ignorant, fanboy love for verizon has nothing to do with this thread about BB DEVICES. No Marcus Aurelius, no cock and bull stories about weekend dinners at family members houses out in the country and surprise surprise Marcus Aurelius magical verizon phone is the only one which works. Now even more cock and bull stories from Marcus Aurelius of service providers and coverage problems even when he’s home from weekend dinners at family members houses out in the country.

“That is the only question that is important to me. Do I wish that VZW offered the Curve fully loaded with every available features? YES.
Will I accept a Curve that has some altered or deleted features but I get great service with? YES. That’s all I’ve been saying the whole time.”

Sorry Marcus Aurelius I again call you on your BS. If you plainly and simply stated the above a week ago without all the thread craps, name calling and fanboy ignorance thrown in for good measure you wouldn’t be backed into a corner with your verizon phone.

Why accept “a Curve that has some altered or deleted features” when it deosn’t have to / shouldn’t be that way? Why accept anti-consumer actions from your wet dream in service providers, verizon? Don’t you think verizon customers deserve RIM BB DEVICES like the Curve like it was designed and manufactured by RIM instead of crippled with features and functions removed by verizon?

As a consumer you should use what works but also make your voice heard to demand the wrongs be righted. You sure shouldn’t crap over those in the know which point out the TRUTH and FACTS. Accepting getting screwed by verizon helps no one including you and RIM

bluehorseshoe
#72. February 25th, 2008, at 10:40 PM.

Wow. Gotta agree with Marcus, VZW works better for me too. If ‘accepting’ phone calls and not dropping them is getting screwed, then I’ll settle for getting screwed.

Remember hellno, this is ‘his’ opinion and choice. You’re entitled to yours. Telling someone that they are getting screwed is offensive. If everyone here told you that you were getting screwed by AT&T and Apple with your iPhone, I think you’d be going balistic.

Play nice in the sandbox with others and share your ideas, don’t drill them. I think you’d be happy to find that they’d be receptive to your input if done in an articulate and personable manner.

PS - I’m not attacking you, etc. I’m trying to help you communicate with everyone else here.

Marcus Aurelius
#73. February 25th, 2008, at 11:03 PM.

Bluehorseshoe,

He can’t. He has to call me an ignorant fanboy because the only provider in my area that works is Verizon. That is really open minded of him isn’t it. We all have to bend over and kiss AT&T because he says so. It makes no difference to him that I can’t get it in Central Oregon. It makes no difference that VERIZON clearly provides the best service in my area. I have to hate Verizon.

I just don’t get him. He is beyond obsessed. He is actually scary with his single minded bigotry.

I’m done with him. All he will do is insult and demean and belittle me with every post when I KNOW THE TRUTH and I don’t really see how he could if he doesn’t live here.

Oh well. I hope he doesn’t have weapons at his house…he is a dangerous mind!

Marcus

hellno
#74. February 26th, 2008, at 1:09 PM.

bluehorseshoe, Marcus Aurelius,

#.5 bluehorseshoe your help and self made suggestions for others about how we post are not needed nor wanted.

#1 bluehorseshoe, pardon the call of BS but where you live (or where you claim to live) has very good coverage by ALL wireless service providers (Not that this thread has ever been about service, the thread is about the DEVICE, the rumored cdma Curve.

#2 bluehorseshoe, again Pardon the call of BS but. So you think telling someone the TRUTH with FACTS to back it up “is offensive”? hmmm I guess that might be only in the verizon world. With out the need for verizon rose colored glasses, in the real world telling someone they are getting screwed by a greedy and arrogant service providing corporation, showing them the TRUTH with FACTS to back it up is knowledge, and knowledge is power. verizon doesn’t like it’s customers to have any power, luckly they have nothing to worry about when it comes to a few represented here. It’s one thing to be a fanboy, it’s another thing to allow a service providing corporation screw you. By each of your posts you show the rest of us you both approve verizon’s actions of crippling and removing functions and features from your RIM BlackBerry’s. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see these crippling and removing functions and features actions by verizon is not in the customers best interest NOR is in RIM’s best interest for it’s Blackberry DEVICES.

As posted before Marcus Aurelius is still confused that this is a thread about the rumored cdma Curve DEVICE. Marcus Aurelius shows he’s so upset with those that post the FACTS and TRUTH and is desperate to stop the FACTS and TRUTH he lashes out with thread craps, personal shots, FUD, and fanboy ignorance. Marcus Aurelius chose the typical verzion fanboy tale to tell, it’s alot like a Dr. Suess book. I don’t get that service over there, I dont get this service over here, I don’t like this service in the house, I don’t like this service with the mouse. Sadly this thread is not a fanboy homage to service but it’s about the rumored cdma Blackberry CURVE.

Wrong again Marcus Aurelius, pointing out verizon actions of crippling and removing functions and features based on FACTS and TRUTH is hardly a form of Bigotry.

Ignorance and fear of the TRUTH and FACTS are no excuses for thread craps, personal shots, FUD, and fanboy ignorance.

Again from a post above…..

“As a consumer you should use what works but also make your voice heard to demand the wrongs be righted. You sure shouldn’t crap over those in the know which point out the TRUTH and FACTS. Accepting getting screwed by verizon helps no one including you and RIM” I guess bluehorseshoe, Marcus Aurelius, have been beaten by verizon’s greed and arrogance so much accepting verizon’s actions of crippling and removing functions and features based on FACTS and TRUTH is acceptable. The rest of us will continue to point out verizon’s anti-consumer, wrongs especially when it affects the customer and RIM’s Blackberry DEVICES.

This thread started by our host Robb, is about the Rumored cdma Curve DEVICE
-NOT- delusions of grandeur about service and being accepting like sheep of verizon’s crippling and removing functions and features from RIM’s Blackberry DEVICES. It should not have to be a choice, it’s not a choice with other service providers. bluehorseshoe, Marcus Aurelius think RIM is in the wrong for designing and manufacturing such “infantile features” and functions into their Blackberrys. The rest of us all know better, and continue to enjoy RIM’s innovation and expect wireless service providers to allow RIM and other manufactures to do what they do best.

There is no reason to desperately try to hide nor accept the FACTS and TRUTH about verizon’s anti-consumer actions, especially when it comes to even the rumored cdma RIM Blackberry. Just like there is no reason or excuse the sad few can use for desperately trying to