Is This The BlackBerry 9000?

Hellno,

Good to see that you can post now that school is out. It appears that in your rambling post, you mixed Bluehorseshoe and I up. That said, I will try to be nice and not say anything too personal, like you do all the time, because I do not want you to have to run to Robb for help.

“s your OPINION only as to which device is “Corporate vs. Consumer” yet can’t grasp that the iPhone can and is being used in Corporate settings with success.”
It was also the opinion of the author of your referenced article. In fact, it was the first sentence. And instead of saying to me, it is your opinion and I disagree, you jumped in my grill and said I was wrong. No gray area there. Guess what, that is an opinion as well. You do that a lot, tell people that they are wrong because your opinion is the only one that matters. Candidly it is rude as hell and one of the reasons I engage with you even though I know i should not waste my time.

No one has said that the iPhone is not used by some corporate users. Rather that is a device targeted at consumers and is not being adopted as widely by corporate users for reasons I, and your articles spelled out.

“Apple with the iPhone and iTunes has shown that setting up and syncing smartphones is simple, so simple “Corporate” management can do a little cost cutting starting with the small number of ignorant, un-coorperative, IT’s which would rather FUD and make problems instead doing their job and finding solutions.” That is silly. Corporate IT department are able to manage large numbers of users because they have tools to do so…iTunes is not such a tool. Not many organizations are going to lay off Exchange admins because they do not embrace a tool that does not sync with Exchange. Having a small number of users on a non-standard product is what creates problems. iPhone users will have to go it alone because they will not likely get support from their IT department. If you want to use an iPhone in my company, that is your choice. But, you are on your own to set it up and since we are not allowed admin rights, installing iTunes is not an option. However, we have a BES and use Active Sync and IT will support and assist you in setting those up.

Yes, an iPhone user can provision easily and do not usually need handholding. However, as the article YOU referenced points out, the iPhone still does not do corporate calendaring and standard push email. Until those are addressed, corporate adoption will lag. Oh, and by addressed, I mean that the iPhone begins to work with tools already deployed.The Curve and Pearl are fully deployable in the corporate space as they can be set up to run on a BES in a few minutes over the air. My co-workers carry both. Your comment about them is silly.

Last, lest you think I am Bill Gate’s spawn, this was typed on an Intel iMac using Safari.

you you you you…. This is not YOUmarkable or Imarkable…..

Come on post about the topic not about your opinion or critique of others since like the other, no one cares what your opinion is about others, no need to post to someone, RIMarkable is not a personal email service. Interesting you seem to feel the need to constantly follow up your grandstand post with yet another grandstanding post.

Pointing out ones opinions as dead wrong is called for especially when reading negative FUD and ignorant posts by those which have no clue about what they talk about, especially when they comment about a device they don’t own, nor use. Thinking, hoping they somehow know better than those people with both devices which are being posted about. Posting BS for grandstanding, and for attention.

Tales of how it’s done IT wise at one company will differ from what other corporations/business’s do. As one of the article pointed out web based app’s and data are a option for discussion. Everyone doesn’t need a BES server to be in sync, there are many other ways to keep employees with the info they need.

“No one has said that the iPhone is not used by some corporate users”
vs
“And typical of apple, they make a great CONSUMER device with limited, for now, corporate utility. Soft of like a Mac…..”

Not exactly a not used, but sure is based on opinion, grandstanding and WRONG.

You two keep up the personal attacks, desperately trying to get off topic. Yet in all reality the RIM Blackberry is completely outmatched when compared with the Apple iPhone, one is a smartphone with great email, the other is a hand sized computer which has completely raised the bar in smart mobile devices and is the gold standard which other devices are judged. When judging the pictured BB9000 vers the iPhone (like we were doing before the grandstanding and rants) I hope for RIM this device is not their next gen device, also really hope for RIM that the rumored BB9000 (as pictured) is not RIM’s rumored answer to the iPhone.

I have been reading this site for a few weeks now and it seems like some of the commentators leave more comments than the author writes articles.

The owners of this site should probably moderate the comments a bit more closely….

Robb,

I hope you don’t, I hope you don’t have to moderate more closely. I’m sure most would agree we can discuss RIM, BB’s, even iPhone’s here with out calling others “assjack(s)” RIMarkable would be much friendlier if a small few here remember the discussions are about wireless objects and service NOT people, and NOT grandstanding.

Robb,

To you and your other readers, my apologies.

Hellno, there is no excuse for your poor actions. Any adult knows you can’t blame your piss poor actions on someone else.

If “assjack” upsets you, better grow a thicker skin or set your browser to http://www.POWDERPUFFmarkable.com

Another word of wisdom, your “disrespect towards others” does NOTHING, it’s not at all called for, and is disrespectful to RIMarkable, Robb, and everyone else here. Know your role. Better to read, understand then either agree or disagree, leave it and move on. You have a chip on your shoulders because of a post on a open forum, where wireless devices are the topic? RIMArkable is not the place for you to turn posts around to make personal jabs, attacks and to desperately try and grandstand when your opinion doesn’t match anothers.

No apologies since like posts they matter not, move on and adjust your actions… or your browser.

I am done on this topic. I have a tissue if you need it.

Hellno,
The irony is too rich to let go of just yet. The simple point I am making is that with the exception using one particular word, you do everything you accuse others/me of doing.

BTW, I still love the fact that the article you referenced confirmed my original point. You know, the one you said was fiction.

See you in other threads. May the Force be with you.

@ hellidiot

I’m concerned that you reduced your dosage and somehow escaped the asylum again. Its actually YOUR comments that offend tick people off when they give educated comments and all you feed is your VZW sucks, iPhone rules and here’s some links crap. Then you wonder why you get abused? Debate, don’t negate. Oh, and here’s a link for you since you’re into them…

http://www.hellnoisamoran.com
Plenty of good info and should help you out.

@ jhp2

I’ve been at this with hellno for some time now. Started when I switched from TMO to VZW on the Pearl for the 3G tethering and better call coverage and quality. He said it was a downgrade. Obviously he’s not familiar with anything that relates to technology, and is dysfunctional when it comes to a discussion. His syle of writing leads me to believe he’s missing a few cells and belongs to a dungeons and dragons group.

Blue,

Amen brother. He really does not realize how offensive he is when he responds to people. Now he is calling me a liar. The anonymity of the internet leads to some very interesting behavior. In any event, I have been called worse by better people.

Have a great weekend!

Jhp2

So far, so good. I’ve been using the Pearl since day 1 when it came out on TMO and the switch to VZW has been nice. If you can get used to the Pearl and it’s size, then its great. I like the size of the phone as opposed to the larger sized options, such as the 8800. Speed on the browser is good, and tethering is surprisingly very good. I stress very because its better than good and I’m getting good data speeds. Not sure where you reside, but they’ll let you test it out for 30 days for free. Video recording is OK, nothing to go crazy over, and the camera is good. Call quality is solid. I do a lot of speaker phone calls and Bluetooth calls and comes out very clear. The one thing I’d being up that can be of concern is the trackball. While they say its improved, I think it actually took a step backwards. I liked the previous track ball which seemed more accurate. I’ve already brought one Pearl back because of the ball…just doesn’t seemed to grip as well. I’ve gotten used to it, but its something that others may not like.

VZW hasn’t locked this one down as much as they have with other phones, but it still has its limitations, like not being able to install google maps. I did install yahoo messenger, use it all the time, and the haven’t picked up the texts. I’ll take it.
BTW…all my comments are from my Pearl. If I have a spelling error or word that should be something else, then its because of the suretype. But otherwise, with the few errors from time to time, I’m able to fly on this thing. Speaking of which, the keyboard is solid.

Overall, it gives me everything I need and the tethering is very good, the big bonus in my opinion and one of the reasons why people chose VZW.

Have a good one.

Verizon Relents on DUN… Just a Tiny Bit
Submitted by Ed Hardy on Friday, February 03, 2006

Verizon users have been complaining for years that this carrier disables Dial-Up Networking (DUN) on many of the devices it offers.

This means that they can’t be used as a wireless modem for other devices, like a laptop.

Now, for the first time, Verizon’s hard-line stance has cracked, if only a little bit.

According to PC Magazine, this carrier is now allowing users of just a few of its mobile phones to have access to DUN.

Unfortunately, none of these are Palm OS or Pocket PC models.

And users are expected to pay heavily for the service. It costs $60 a month, on top of any other services one has subscribed to.

Also, users are expected to use a cable, not Bluetooth, although many of them could use this short-range wireless networking standard.

Still, surely many Verizon customers will take this as a sign that the carrier might relent more in the future.

(Those in the know, realize vzw is being forced to allow DUN, as vzw upgrades to the GSM family of technologies)

Blue,

Thanks for the update on the Pearl. I tether on the 7130 and it works well but it is not rev A, so I get right about 400K most of the time. Most of my co-workers that have a Pearl are on the corporate T-Mo plan so tethering really is not an option due to data speeds. I like the trackball idea a lot as I used Treo’s for years and when I switched to the BB, I developed one heck of a case of BB thumb. Used to have to ice it nightly so I am glad to have another option. Interestingly, we are no longer going to upgrade the BES at work and are being encouraged to go to Windows devices. Unfortunately, the VZW Q is a toy not a corporate device.

Whoa, hold the press! Robb please mark the date. Even though it has little to do with the current thread, must say I am in agreement with bluehorseshoe and jhp2 on their thought about M$ devices (after also giving M$ many chances to prove itself, and it’s failure to do so) Also agree about the current and ongoing sad state of Palm devices too, though never thought my 650 Palm was anywhere close as good as my 8700 BB… Now if that 8700 only had a camera, and played as nice with the MacOS.

Not that it matters but why would RIM with the new BB8130 only support TIA-856 Rev A? It hardly matters though since voda/verizon have already said they are upgrading to GSM/LTE, which is coming soon to break the closed, proprietary cdma chain as industry is moving away from the Qualcomm dominated CDMA air-interface, to the standard, open global GSM family of technologies LTE.

I’d prefer reading in my native language, because my knowledge of your languange is no so well. But it was interesting! Look for some my links:

someone can tell me how to do my BB9000 work as a internet modem using my laptop? thanks