Why Won’t You Dump Your BlackBerry For An Iphone?

All blackberry users I know are sane. You would have to be crazy to switch to IPhone. My youngest son had a IPhone and switched immediately to the Curve. tom

My 8320 (Curve) is also my first Smartphone I’ve ever had, and I treasure it. When I first saw the iPhone I thought “that’s a nice toy” where as with my BB I feel like I have the power of a laptop in my pocket. It has saved me heaps of time several times, and I doubt I’ll need to ever switch to an iPhone, because BlackBerrys too will keep getting better.

First off, the iPhone is a one carrier phone.

Second, while I would love to have a touch screen for certain things, typing isn’t one of them. No way I switch to a phone without a real keyboard.

Third, I prefer a separate media player and phone. Hate to waste phone power and batteries more than needed.

Fourth, the iPhone is too darn expensive, probably because it is a media player and phone all in one, but that just isn’t a perk to me.

I’ll keep my blackberry for now. ATT’s network is unreliable in my area so it’s a non-starter right there. Push email is another big reason. While I prefer the physical keyboard, I could live with the touchscreen. The iphone not having a removable battery bothers me a bit too. Long story short, I won’t even consider it until I can buy it on a different network, but will compare them closely once it is. fwiw I’m a business user on BIS.

Already did!

@Cliff

Ding! For every reason you stated and then some. The iPhone, while nice IMO, is more than I really need. I don’t want my cell phone to double as an iPod, and I imagine there’s plenty others out there that would agree.

Two reasons:

Keyboard and Todo Matrix.

Keyboard, email, security, not limited to one carrier, ability to swap the battery, tethering. And if I added the corporate side to it: security, tethering, unsecured wireless access, option of no camera, no strong multipmedia iPod functions that distract from work like watching a movie, or the ability to download songs off of iTunes with the corporate credit card (these are things you need to keep in mind when dealing with some folks in the corporate world…as dumb as it may sound).

For personal use, sure, I’d give the iPhone a whirl, but I have an iPod, don’t need to listen to music on my phone, and not willing to shell out all that money for a phone/iPod. With the plans that came out a week ago, I can make all the calls I want these days instead of keeping seperate lines.

I think the type of phone will work for the type of person when all is said and done. People will decide based on need and preference.

Keyboard – virtual on iPhone
email – iPhone’s got pull and push
security – iPhone’s got that too as previously posted
“not limited to on carrier” – hmmmm you mean like every blackberry “limited to one NOC for all data”?

The rest is all typical bluehorseshoe ignorance and FUD.

ya get what ya give RIMarkable’s resident troll bluehorseshoe.

@hellno

See, this is why you get abused, and then you complain that people take personal jabs at you. I post MY opinion, and you voice your disagreement to the point of showcasing your stupidity. So, here I go…

You’re a retard. We all see that, and we know it. You have approximately 25+ people (and counting) who visit this board and can’t stand you, nor your constant crap that you post over and over and over. You DO NOT know how to communicate with the outside world. You have the originator of this board frustrated with your crap, but due to his policy which many respect, he allows you to continue on.

If you’re going to preach that you ‘respect’ this board, post your opinion, and participate in constructive conversation, then start doing so. We are all frustrated by your continuous copying and pasting, degrading services, phones, etc. We got your point. You don’t like VZW, BB’s, nor society. You love iPhones, AT&T, and Teletubbies. We understand.

There’s nothing that you can post that will change peoples minds here…especially when we’re considering the source! You’re track record speaks for itself.

Greg B,

Just as it’s misleading to claim the iPhone has no security? Or the misleading claim that the iPhone has “unsecured wireless access”? Or the misleading claim of no ability to watch movies or listen to music on the BB. Or the misleading claim Blackberry’s with Camera’s are not being used in enterprise? Or Perhaps the misleading claim that the iPhone would corrupt some to use corporate credit card to download songs? The troll is right his FUD is as “dumb as it may sound”. Apple is listening to corporations for it’s upcoming enterprise and SDK upgrade. As typical bluehorseshoe thinks he knows better than those involved and what he doesn’t know or understand (which is plenty) he’ll FUD and make up.

You are right the iPhone does not have BB-Style push email, but the iPhone does have push email for those not running a enterprise server. The iPhone also has pull email which is automatic and if set to poll every 15 minutes it’s doing the same in the same time as BIS.

Oh…and one more reason I won’t dump my BB for an iPhone. Because hellno uses an iPhone. It kind of scares me…

Right now it is a moot point. The iPhone developments taht were announced, including VC investment hold future promise. Nothing changes in the near term as far as iPhone vs. RIM. I will want to see the iPhone be the equal or better the BB for push email, calendar, etc, 3G capability and carrier options. Having worked in teh software industry, until yoou have seen it work it is all vaporware.

Open letter to bluehorseshoe’s mom,

It’s time Mrs bluehorseshoe to remove little bluehorseshoe’s computer access again for his desperate need for attention and thread crapping. His lies, grandstanding, and problems with TRUTH, FACTS, and REALITY which are very hurtful to him. He’s completely shown everyone at RIMarkable thats he’s nothing but a ignorant troll. It’s obvious to all here that his med’s are not helping his personal problems here or at any other the many other websites he choses to crap all over. Think he also must have messed in his pants, might want to start there.

thanks bluehorseshoe’s mom, from the rest of us at RIMarkable.

@ jhp2

Aren’t we all…it’s what we have to deal with. In the beginning I used go at it with him, now I try to ignore it except for the occasional here and there…it’s really hard not to respond sometimes when dealing with someone like this. You want to stand up for your opinion when someone attacks it (debating is fine, but attacking?), but then you see how he responds and you know there’s a screw loose.

bluehorseshoe and jhp2,

Both thread crapping, both with a delusional disorder. bluehorseshoe is trying to blame others for his problems and ignorance. jhp2 you’ve been around here long enough to know ya get what you give. bluehorseshoe is a very special case, his constant BS here doesn’t go on un-noticed. “I used go at it with him, now I try to ignore it except for the occasional here and there” Thats a load of BS, this ignorant troll aka bluehorsehoe doesn’t have a back to back post where he doesn’t thread crap or take things personal. this ignorant troll aka bluehorseshoe doesn’t have a back to back post not based on FUD and ignorance. From the beginning little bluehorseshoe started name calling and making personal attack posts because A) he’s too ignorant to accept FACTS, TRUTH and REALITY. B)he’s so desperate for attention he feels the need to play games, grandstand, FUD, and turn RIMarkable into his personal toilet. bluehorseshoe on his own has taken the IQ level of all blackberry users down to that of desperate vealot sheep, hanging on any and every line of FUD verizon puts out. bluehorseshoe is so ignorant he feels anyone cares to know about him or his desperate hopes and dreams, or what service provider his wife uses in a thread about the BB and the iPhone.

Poor little bluehorseshoe living with all the problems he has on top of such ignorance only making it harder on himself when he lets the ignorance and desperation start guiding his way to sh*tting himself both in his pants and the crap he posts here at RIMarkable.

Greg, we had a discussion and as of yet I haven’t seen anything which say’s BIS polls any quicker than every 15 minutes, it’s not instantaneous like you continue to think, as far as what I’ve seen. I’m surprised your continuing to think and spread false information about BIS spec’s and trying to fault others for posting the truth. I think your confusing the push vrs BB’s servers polling for email. Push might come real time, but RIM’s BB servers are not polling each and every email address every second of the day, this is where it is said there is up to a 15 minute delay. Which by the way is the same time the iPhone with it’s automatic pull email takes the iPhone doesn’t need to rely on a single NOC for it’s data. Also Yahoo DOES push email at the iPhone. It’s disappointing that you continue to try to find fault with the iPhone spec’s while incorrectly thinking BIS push is any faster than the iPhone automatic pull email or the iPhone’s built in Yahoo push email.

One more reason, user made SDK apps will be restricted from running in the background. This is how Gizmodo sums it up, “This means every application, from IM to VoIP to GPS mapping, will have to terminate entirely when the user switches out to take a call or change a song. How does this affect you? It means you won’t be a be able to receive IMs unless you’re currently inside the IM app, forcing you to disconnect when you take a call.”

Really makes me want to dump my Curve and my carrier to run out and buy an iPhone today.

@ Blue,

You are correct. You want to avoid the train wreck but fee compelled to defend your opinion, facts and real-world experience. Additionally, the disagreement from our friend tend to be quite personal.

That said, I am working on the Patrick Swayze approach, “Be Nice.” I will let you know how it works.

hellno, I get e-mails sent to my BB account instantly, in real time. I’ve read documentation that says 15-min polling for POP3s, IMAPs, etc, but that’s not what I’m talking about. I’m talking about the BB e-mail you are given the option of using when setting up an account. I guess you’re just going to have to take my word for it, hellno. I am most certainly not spreading false info about BIS’ specs. You are misinformed, and it does not mean I’m “trying to fault others for posting the truth” because I’m calling you out on something (which, by the way, is something you seem to have no problem doing for anyone that dares not jibe with your way of thinking). You saying receiving e-mail on iPhone’s 15-minute polling is just as fast as receiving e-mail set up on a BIS Blackberry.net account is just not true. Period. I use it every day. And when did I ever fault iPhone’s specs? Where’s that coming from? What I faulted was your misleading interpretation of them when comparing them with the BB. (My apologies to everyone else posting here. I don’t know why I feel especially compelled to do this today.)

oh jhp2,

You are as guilty as the rest don’t start fooling yourself with self-gratifying BS. Keep on stroking your girlfriend bluehorseshoe you two are perfect for each other.

“the BB is fully baked” alright it’s done and just about over like you and your sad little club of ignorance.

Thanks Greg B “I’ve read documentation that says 15-min polling for POP3s, IMAPs, etc” case CLOSED. the TRUTH was being told all along. Why have you been trying to mislead others into thinking BIS is magical? Whats the next BB with BIS claim? that email comes even before the other party types it and hits send? That would be real handy for those like yourself who feel a 15 minute interval is too long between RIM BB push and iPhone automatic pull email polling is too long. Lucky Yahoo provides FREE push email for iPhone customers. Email is email, Instant messaging aka SMS messaging and BB messaging is better technology when messages are needed in a instant. Lucky the iPhone supports both push and automatic pull email. Both for enterprise and for those not running a MS exchange server.

That “push solution” you think Greg B is doing by forwarding his POP emails to his BB address are “thus” subject to the BIS ~15 minute polling spec. I think Greg is saying he feels his gregb@mycingular.blackberry.net (for example) is quicker than the 15 minutes we agree BIS polling and pushing takes. Thats “Not that difficult to understand” either. Greg’s argument is as a individual without MS Exchange he feels the iPhone’s 15 minute automatic pull email, and the iPhone’s Yahoo push email is somehow slower than the BIS ~15 minute polling and push email.

Boy Genius has a solution for those with 15 minute problems.

Want push email on your iPhone? No problem
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/09/12/want-push-email-on-your-iphone-no-problem/