Comments on: What’s Going To Happen With CDMA In The United States? http://www.rimarkable.com/whats-going-to-happen-with-cdma-in-the-united-states The Unofficial BlackBerry Weblog Fri, 10 Feb 2012 09:11:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jay http://www.rimarkable.com/whats-going-to-happen-with-cdma-in-the-united-states/comment-page-1#comment-92516 Jay Wed, 08 Aug 2007 03:46:12 +0000 http://www.rimarkable.com/archives/1442#comment-92516 I would have to say that (sticking to the original topic here) that CDMA can and will for that matter only be eclipsed by a few mergers and aquisitions, which will be interesting to say the least. To start, Verizon will probably never switch on their own because they have such a huge investment in it on the back end and such. They dont even operate a GSM network period, so they would have a scary transition to say the least. Whats poloticaly interesting is that one of Europe's biggest GSM carriers has a 40% investment in Verizon wireless and may have some sinsiter for verzion that is intentions, as they refuse to sell their stake and are only a hair's worth of shares from a controlling interest. Some investers are pushing for a compete takeover, and as sucj I bet you can guess what that would eventually mean; thats right Verizon becoming a GSM carrier or the "Verizon Wireless" name actuallu going by by and getting replaces, or even more sinsiter, any American interest being sold to a competing carrier and the European parent divesting itself of its American counterpart completeley. Can anyone say "T-Mobile" part of Deutch Telekom, whom like our ATT has plenty of cash and plenty of name Recogniton. I have at times speculated that T-Mobile's American arm may be divested and sold t ATT, but if such a deal were to made available to Deutche Telekom they may indeed find it lucrativ to buy and incorporate Verizon Wireless into a brand new (albiet GSM) rival of ATT, and combining the two of them would certainly make for a bigger company then ATT wireless for sure, thus squarely placing T-Mobile/Deuch Telekom at the top of the Ameican wireless hill. A nice position to be in indeed, but could happen, I think yes but only if the wheels are set in motion by O2's shareholders to aquire a controlling interest, then find a suitable buyer to divest themselves of there American interest. However, far before any of this happens, I predict that Sprint will go bye bye, they to me seem to be in the worst market position and don't show any signs of recovery; quarter after quarter they are loosing customers while arguably maintaining the bottom of the berrel (think credit situations) and complacent customers who are either too cheap to pay to get out of their contracts, or see a sell phone as something less then alluring. It is this same type of customer who refuses to pay for the often very profitable for the carrier service additions that Sprint heavely advertises, as these people say a cell phone "is just for talking." The worst part, however and certainly something which I am sure will be reaching litigation (if it has not already) is how they have treated their iDen customers, silently neglecting their network, and depriving them of high end product in the hope of forcably making them switch to highbrid, iDen/CDMA handsets (at the customers expense mind you) while continuing to advertise and sign up new customers to arguably the worst network in the buisness (admitably by their own employes) while corporate throws up its hands at the shareholders like "I don't know why they hate us, and we can't sign up new customers"...please. Apparently its not illegal for a company to do this (yet), but it sure should be. Don't get my wrong I am all with the whole switch to a better network thing, but to A. not be giving wholesale discounts to existing an loyal (Nextel people are the most) customers. B. Holding the cunsumer to his/her contract with full well knowlege that they are not whistling dixie when they say "my service is horrible" is just downright scary, and my feeling is Sprint deserves whatevery happens to them. The only thing that shocks me is that Nextel users are not marching on Sprint's headquarters with burning torches! Needless to say I predict they will eventually be gone, and their buisness practices with them making for 1 large CDMA carrier once Verizon and (whatever is left of) Sprints customers combine forces against the ATT juggernaut. My final work is, all this is good for buisness but bad for consumers, format wars never end pretty i.e. VHS and Betamax and now Blu-Ray and HD-DVD. Just my take. I would have to say that (sticking to the original topic here) that CDMA can and will for that matter only be eclipsed by a few mergers and aquisitions, which will be interesting to say the least. To start, Verizon will probably never switch on their own because they have such a huge investment in it on the back end and such. They dont even operate a GSM network period, so they would have a scary transition to say the least. Whats poloticaly interesting is that one of Europe’s biggest GSM carriers has a 40% investment in Verizon wireless and may have some sinsiter for verzion that is intentions, as they refuse to sell their stake and are only a hair’s worth of shares from a controlling interest. Some investers are pushing for a compete takeover, and as sucj I bet you can guess what that would eventually mean; thats right Verizon becoming a GSM carrier or the “Verizon Wireless” name actuallu going by by and getting replaces, or even more sinsiter, any American interest being sold to a competing carrier and the European parent divesting itself of its American counterpart completeley. Can anyone say “T-Mobile” part of Deutch Telekom, whom like our ATT has plenty of cash and plenty of name Recogniton. I have at times speculated that T-Mobile’s American arm may be divested and sold t ATT, but if such a deal were to made available to Deutche Telekom they may indeed find it lucrativ to buy and incorporate Verizon Wireless into a brand new (albiet GSM) rival of ATT, and combining the two of them would certainly make for a bigger company then ATT wireless for sure, thus squarely placing T-Mobile/Deuch Telekom at the top of the Ameican wireless hill. A nice position to be in indeed, but could happen, I think yes but only if the wheels are set in motion by O2′s shareholders to aquire a controlling interest, then find a suitable buyer to divest themselves of there American interest. However, far before any of this happens, I predict that Sprint will go bye bye, they to me seem to be in the worst market position and don’t show any signs of recovery; quarter after quarter they are loosing customers while arguably maintaining the bottom of the berrel (think credit situations) and complacent customers who are either too cheap to pay to get out of their contracts, or see a sell phone as something less then alluring. It is this same type of customer who refuses to pay for the often very profitable for the carrier service additions that Sprint heavely advertises, as these people say a cell phone “is just for talking.” The worst part, however and certainly something which I am sure will be reaching litigation (if it has not already) is how they have treated their iDen customers, silently neglecting their network, and depriving them of high end product in the hope of forcably making them switch to highbrid, iDen/CDMA handsets (at the customers expense mind you) while continuing to advertise and sign up new customers to arguably the worst network in the buisness (admitably by their own employes) while corporate throws up its hands at the shareholders like
“I don’t know why they hate us, and we can’t sign up new customers”…please. Apparently its not illegal for a company to do this (yet), but it sure should be. Don’t get my wrong I am all with the whole switch to a better network thing, but to A. not be giving wholesale discounts to existing an loyal (Nextel people are the most) customers. B. Holding the cunsumer to his/her contract with full well knowlege that they are not whistling dixie when they say “my service is horrible” is just downright scary, and my feeling is Sprint deserves whatevery happens to them. The only thing that shocks me is that Nextel users are not marching on Sprint’s headquarters with burning torches! Needless to say I predict they will eventually be gone, and their buisness practices with them making for 1 large CDMA carrier once Verizon and (whatever is left of) Sprints customers combine forces against the ATT juggernaut. My final work is, all this is good for buisness but bad for consumers, format wars never end pretty i.e. VHS and Betamax and now Blu-Ray and HD-DVD.
Just my take.

]]> By: John http://www.rimarkable.com/whats-going-to-happen-with-cdma-in-the-united-states/comment-page-1#comment-92506 John Wed, 08 Aug 2007 02:19:45 +0000 http://www.rimarkable.com/archives/1442#comment-92506 Poli Man - Last time I was there Australia was pretty big. Its about 3500 miles from Sydney to Perth. Australia has alot of open land (the outback if you will) and that's where Telstra is going to discontinue the CDMA service and switch it to GSM. Go figure. The only delay that Telstra has is that the Australian government wants them to phase it out over a longer period time. Poli Man – Last time I was there Australia was pretty big. Its about 3500 miles from Sydney to Perth. Australia has alot of open land (the outback if you will) and that’s where Telstra is going to discontinue the CDMA service and switch it to GSM. Go figure. The only delay that Telstra has is that the Australian government wants them to phase it out over a longer period time.

]]> By: Poli Man http://www.rimarkable.com/whats-going-to-happen-with-cdma-in-the-united-states/comment-page-1#comment-92418 Poli Man Tue, 07 Aug 2007 15:34:27 +0000 http://www.rimarkable.com/archives/1442#comment-92418 CDMA is superior for it covers better in countries that has large land and fewer towers. Besides, all know that GSM covarage sux here in the US. Small countries can efford GSM, we cannot. CDMA is superior for it covers better in countries that has large land and fewer towers. Besides, all know that GSM covarage sux here in the US. Small countries can efford GSM, we cannot.

]]> By: John http://www.rimarkable.com/whats-going-to-happen-with-cdma-in-the-united-states/comment-page-1#comment-92034 John Mon, 06 Aug 2007 19:37:52 +0000 http://www.rimarkable.com/archives/1442#comment-92034 I dunno but nobody in down under thought this would happen: Australia's Telstra is considering a plan to scrap a mobile-phone network used by more than 1 million residents of the remote outback. http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile/networks/index.htm Their website states "Telstra will continue to operate its current GSM, 3G and CDMA networks, but given the breadth and depth of coverage offered on the Next Gâ„¢ network, the CDMA network will eventually be phased out." I dunno but nobody in down under thought this would happen:

Australia’s Telstra is considering a plan to scrap a mobile-phone network used by more than 1 million residents of the remote outback.

http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile/networks/index.htm

Their website states “Telstra will continue to operate its current GSM, 3G and CDMA networks, but given the breadth and depth of coverage offered on the Next Gâ„¢ network, the CDMA network will eventually be phased out.”

]]> By: Michael http://www.rimarkable.com/whats-going-to-happen-with-cdma-in-the-united-states/comment-page-1#comment-91703 Michael Sun, 05 Aug 2007 13:02:15 +0000 http://www.rimarkable.com/archives/1442#comment-91703 Thanks for the info Hellno. You say to steer clear of the BB 8830, is that only because of the crippled GPS? Altho, a cool feature I would love to have , that alone would not be an impediment to getting that phone. Is there any other reason to avoid the 8830? Thanks for the taking the time to provide all of this info, it is really appreciated.--Michael Thanks for the info Hellno. You say to steer clear of the BB 8830, is that only because of the crippled GPS? Altho, a cool feature I would love to have , that alone would not be an impediment to getting that phone. Is there any other reason to avoid the 8830? Thanks for the taking the time to provide all of this info, it is really appreciated.–Michael

]]> By: hellno http://www.rimarkable.com/whats-going-to-happen-with-cdma-in-the-united-states/comment-page-1#comment-91569 hellno Sat, 04 Aug 2007 21:47:35 +0000 http://www.rimarkable.com/archives/1442#comment-91569 Meet Sir Charge http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-pzBloyvAk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4W6pBNDEao8&NR=1 Meet Sir Charge

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-pzBloyvAk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4W6pBNDEao8&NR=1

]]> By: hellno http://www.rimarkable.com/whats-going-to-happen-with-cdma-in-the-united-states/comment-page-1#comment-91568 hellno Sat, 04 Aug 2007 21:43:32 +0000 http://www.rimarkable.com/archives/1442#comment-91568 Michael if you want a state of the art blackberry upgrade yourself to one of the many built for the Global Standard in Mobile Communication GSM. Steer clear of verizon's crippled 8830. Here is PROOF of verizon's continued lies and anti-consumer behavior BlackBerry 8830 GPS disabling http://jkontherun.blogs.com/jkontherun/2007/07/blackberry-88-1.html It's shameful and verizon's culture of screwing the customer the last go round was bluetooth. With verizon its all about control, greed, and arrogance. It's insulting how verizon turns RIM's hard work on it's blackberry's into crap. Patrick Kimball words are typical verizon lies and FUD, sure hope the response will be entered as official evidence in a courtroom of LAW. By the way those " unapproved 3rd party applications" verizon cripples are RIM approved and put on the BB by RIM. More lies and anti-consumer behavior from a POS communications company. Michael if you want a state of the art blackberry upgrade yourself to one of the many built for the Global Standard in Mobile Communication GSM. Steer clear of verizon’s crippled 8830.

Here is PROOF of verizon’s continued lies and anti-consumer behavior

BlackBerry 8830 GPS disabling
http://jkontherun.blogs.com/jkontherun/2007/07/blackberry-88-1.html

It’s shameful and verizon’s culture of screwing the customer the last go round was bluetooth. With verizon its all about control, greed, and arrogance. It’s insulting how verizon turns RIM’s hard work on it’s blackberry’s into crap. Patrick Kimball words are typical verizon lies and FUD, sure hope the response will be entered as official evidence in a courtroom of LAW. By the way those ” unapproved 3rd party applications” verizon cripples are RIM approved and put on the BB by RIM. More lies and anti-consumer behavior from a POS communications company.

]]> By: Michael http://www.rimarkable.com/whats-going-to-happen-with-cdma-in-the-united-states/comment-page-1#comment-91100 Michael Thu, 02 Aug 2007 17:24:20 +0000 http://www.rimarkable.com/archives/1442#comment-91100 I guess I heard tht before--wasn't the Pearl supposed to be here in May originally? I am getting tired of waiting and my current PDA has crapped out and rather than get a new one, I plan on getting a smartphone. I may opt of the BB Worldphone instead. I guess I heard tht before–wasn’t the Pearl supposed to be here in May originally? I am getting tired of waiting and my current PDA has crapped out and rather than get a new one, I plan on getting a smartphone. I may opt of the BB Worldphone instead.

]]> By: Robb Dunewood http://www.rimarkable.com/whats-going-to-happen-with-cdma-in-the-united-states/comment-page-1#comment-91098 Robb Dunewood Thu, 02 Aug 2007 17:17:57 +0000 http://www.rimarkable.com/archives/1442#comment-91098 There are rumors floating around that it could be coming within the next couple of months. http://www.rimarkable.com/archives/1392 There are rumors floating around that it could be coming within the next couple of months.

http://www.rimarkable.com/archives/1392

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