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		<title>By: Verizon To Unveil Device Specs At Open Development Device Conference &#124; RIMarkable</title>
		<link>http://www.rimarkable.com/what-does-verizon-opening-up-their-network-really-mean/comment-page-1#comment-109763</link>
		<dc:creator>Verizon To Unveil Device Specs At Open Development Device Conference &#124; RIMarkable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 15:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] back in November when Verizon announced that it would open up their network to outside mobiles handsets, devices, and applications? Well, according to a press release put out [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] back in November when Verizon announced that it would open up their network to outside mobiles handsets, devices, and applications? Well, according to a press release put out [...]</p>
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		<title>By: AT&#38;T To Verizon: We&#8217;re Going To Be More &#8220;Open&#8221; Than You &#124; RIMarkable &#124; The official, unofficial BlackBerry Weblog</title>
		<link>http://www.rimarkable.com/what-does-verizon-opening-up-their-network-really-mean/comment-page-1#comment-107240</link>
		<dc:creator>AT&#38;T To Verizon: We&#8217;re Going To Be More &#8220;Open&#8221; Than You &#124; RIMarkable &#124; The official, unofficial BlackBerry Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2007 13:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the wake of Verizon&#8217;s announcement that they are opening up their network, AT&amp;T jumped into the media saying, whatever you can do, we can do, and we can also do it [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the wake of Verizon&#8217;s announcement that they are opening up their network, AT&#38;T jumped into the media saying, whatever you can do, we can do, and we can also do it [...]</p>
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		<title>By: JHP2</title>
		<link>http://www.rimarkable.com/what-does-verizon-opening-up-their-network-really-mean/comment-page-1#comment-107155</link>
		<dc:creator>JHP2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 02:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As to early termination fees going away, they will likely go away when we adopt a model like China where the phone is something you buy for yourself. As long as carriers are subsidizing phones, they will want their money back when you leave their network. Fortunately, carriers are beginning to prorate the ETF. No free lunch unfortunately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As to early termination fees going away, they will likely go away when we adopt a model like China where the phone is something you buy for yourself. As long as carriers are subsidizing phones, they will want their money back when you leave their network. Fortunately, carriers are beginning to prorate the ETF. No free lunch unfortunately.</p>
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		<title>By: CooSee &#187; Comment on What Does Verizon Opening Up Their Network Really Mean? by bluehorseshoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>CooSee &#187; Comment on What Does Verizon Opening Up Their Network Really Mean? by bluehorseshoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 19:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Check it out! While looking through the blogosphere we stumbled on an interesting post today.Here&#8217;s a quick excerpt Verizon is opening their phones, hence the lockdown that everyone has issues with, including myself. As for the change to LTE, that won’t happen until 2010, most likely later. As for how they roll it out, that’s yet another question that needs to be answered. I’m all for faster, better technology, but I’m also realistic about making decisions for today and it’s use. When 4G rolls out, then we’ll see. T the, we’ll be chatting about 5G. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Check it out! While looking through the blogosphere we stumbled on an interesting post today.Here&#8217;s a quick excerpt Verizon is opening their phones, hence the lockdown that everyone has issues with, including myself. As for the change to LTE, that won’t happen until 2010, most likely later. As for how they roll it out, that’s yet another question that needs to be answered. I’m all for faster, better technology, but I’m also realistic about making decisions for today and it’s use. When 4G rolls out, then we’ll see. T the, we’ll be chatting about 5G. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: plut0 &#187; Comment on What Does Verizon Opening Up Their Network Really Mean? by Thought</title>
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		<dc:creator>plut0 &#187; Comment on What Does Verizon Opening Up Their Network Really Mean? by Thought</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 18:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Check it out! While looking through the blogosphere we stumbled on an interesting post today.Here&#8217;s a quick excerpt While I’m no engineer, I do think I have to agree with hellno on this issue: that by going to LTE Verizon will indeed be dumping CDMA and going over to the GSM side, albeit in the 4th generation of GSM technology. It also makes sense, given Vodafone’s financial interest in VZW, as well as the simple fact that clearly the future trend is to have all cell networks operate on the same technological standard, and clearly, the numbers favor GSM to be that standard. Besides, if VZW is really seri [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Check it out! While looking through the blogosphere we stumbled on an interesting post today.Here&#8217;s a quick excerpt While I’m no engineer, I do think I have to agree with hellno on this issue: that by going to LTE Verizon will indeed be dumping CDMA and going over to the GSM side, albeit in the 4th generation of GSM technology. It also makes sense, given Vodafone’s financial interest in VZW, as well as the simple fact that clearly the future trend is to have all cell networks operate on the same technological standard, and clearly, the numbers favor GSM to be that standard. Besides, if VZW is really seri [...]</p>
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		<title>By: komankhe82 &#187; Comment on What Does Verizon Opening Up Their Network Really Mean? by hellno</title>
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		<dc:creator>komankhe82 &#187; Comment on What Does Verizon Opening Up Their Network Really Mean? by hellno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 18:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Check it out! While looking through the blogosphere we stumbled on an interesting post today.Here&#8217;s a quick excerpt Verizon switches standards gears for next-generation network http://www.news.com/8301-13579_3-9826437-37.html?tag=nefd.blgs “Two days after the company announced plans to open its network to outside devices and applications, it announced plans to switch gears when it comes to future networking technology. Verizon Communications and Vodafone, joint owners of Verizon Wireless, plan to use the LTE (Long Term Evolution) standard backed by GSM industry players rather than the UMB (ultramobile bro [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Check it out! While looking through the blogosphere we stumbled on an interesting post today.Here&#8217;s a quick excerpt Verizon switches standards gears for next-generation network <a href="http://www.news.com/8301-13579_3-9826437-37.html?tag=nefd.blgs" rel="nofollow">http://www.news.com/8301-13579_3-9826437-37.html?tag=nefd.blgs</a> “Two days after the company announced plans to open its network to outside devices and applications, it announced plans to switch gears when it comes to future networking technology. Verizon Communications and Vodafone, joint owners of Verizon Wireless, plan to use the LTE (Long Term Evolution) standard backed by GSM industry players rather than the UMB (ultramobile bro [...]</p>
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		<title>By: bluehorseshoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>bluehorseshoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 04:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Verizon is opening their phones, hence the lockdown that everyone has issues with, including myself.  As for the change to LTE, that won&#039;t happen until 2010, most likely later.  As for how they roll it out, that&#039;s yet another question that needs to be answered. 

I&#039;m all for faster, better technology, but I&#039;m also realistic about making decisions for today and it&#039;s use.  When 4G rolls out, then we&#039;ll see.  T the, we&#039;ll be chatting about 5G.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Verizon is opening their phones, hence the lockdown that everyone has issues with, including myself.  As for the change to LTE, that won&#8217;t happen until 2010, most likely later.  As for how they roll it out, that&#8217;s yet another question that needs to be answered. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m all for faster, better technology, but I&#8217;m also realistic about making decisions for today and it&#8217;s use.  When 4G rolls out, then we&#8217;ll see.  T the, we&#8217;ll be chatting about 5G.</p>
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		<title>By: Thought</title>
		<link>http://www.rimarkable.com/what-does-verizon-opening-up-their-network-really-mean/comment-page-1#comment-107130</link>
		<dc:creator>Thought</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 03:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I&#039;m no engineer, I do think I have to agree with hellno on this issue: that by going to LTE Verizon will indeed be dumping CDMA and going over to the GSM side, albeit in the 4th generation of GSM technology.  

It also makes sense, given Vodafone&#039;s financial interest in VZW, as well as the simple fact that clearly the future trend is to have all cell networks operate on the same technological standard, and clearly, the numbers favor GSM to be that standard.  

Besides, if VZW is really serious about their initiative to open their network, then GSM is clearly the way to go to achieve that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I&#8217;m no engineer, I do think I have to agree with hellno on this issue: that by going to LTE Verizon will indeed be dumping CDMA and going over to the GSM side, albeit in the 4th generation of GSM technology.  </p>
<p>It also makes sense, given Vodafone&#8217;s financial interest in VZW, as well as the simple fact that clearly the future trend is to have all cell networks operate on the same technological standard, and clearly, the numbers favor GSM to be that standard.  </p>
<p>Besides, if VZW is really serious about their initiative to open their network, then GSM is clearly the way to go to achieve that.</p>
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		<title>By: hellno</title>
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		<dc:creator>hellno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 03:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Verizon switches standards gears for next-generation network
http://www.news.com/8301-13579_3-9826437-37.html?tag=nefd.blgs

&quot;Two days after the company announced plans to open its network to outside devices and applications, it announced plans to switch gears when it comes to future networking technology.

Verizon Communications and Vodafone, joint owners of Verizon Wireless, plan to use the LTE (Long Term Evolution) standard backed by GSM industry players rather than the UMB (ultramobile broadband) standard backed by Verizon&#039;s current partners.&quot;

&quot;There&#039;s a host of implications for the industry, but for the phone user, the impact is simple. Right now, if you&#039;re a Verizon or Sprint customer, and you want to travel to many parts of the world, you&#039;ll have to get a rental, if you want to make calls while you&#039;re there. The move toward LTE would bring Verizon into the GSM world and enable travelers to use their phones around the world (for a hefty fee, of course).

In some ways, the move makes a lot of sense, and Verizon CEO Ivan Seidenberg hinted that this was coming a few months ago.

The GSM family of standards is used by about 80 percent of the world&#039;s mobile phones--and by major carriers such as AT&amp;T, T-Mobile, Vodafone, and virtually every other European carrier. If Vodafone is already planning to head down the LTE path for its own networks, it&#039;s natural that Vodafone would nudge its subsidiary down a similar path so they could share expertise and get better deals on equipment from companies like Alcatel-Lucent and Nortel Networks.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Verizon switches standards gears for next-generation network<br />
<a href="http://www.news.com/8301-13579_3-9826437-37.html?tag=nefd.blgs" rel="nofollow">http://www.news.com/8301-13579_3-9826437-37.html?tag=nefd.blgs</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Two days after the company announced plans to open its network to outside devices and applications, it announced plans to switch gears when it comes to future networking technology.</p>
<p>Verizon Communications and Vodafone, joint owners of Verizon Wireless, plan to use the LTE (Long Term Evolution) standard backed by GSM industry players rather than the UMB (ultramobile broadband) standard backed by Verizon&#8217;s current partners.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;There&#8217;s a host of implications for the industry, but for the phone user, the impact is simple. Right now, if you&#8217;re a Verizon or Sprint customer, and you want to travel to many parts of the world, you&#8217;ll have to get a rental, if you want to make calls while you&#8217;re there. The move toward LTE would bring Verizon into the GSM world and enable travelers to use their phones around the world (for a hefty fee, of course).</p>
<p>In some ways, the move makes a lot of sense, and Verizon CEO Ivan Seidenberg hinted that this was coming a few months ago.</p>
<p>The GSM family of standards is used by about 80 percent of the world&#8217;s mobile phones&#8211;and by major carriers such as AT&amp;T, T-Mobile, Vodafone, and virtually every other European carrier. If Vodafone is already planning to head down the LTE path for its own networks, it&#8217;s natural that Vodafone would nudge its subsidiary down a similar path so they could share expertise and get better deals on equipment from companies like Alcatel-Lucent and Nortel Networks.&#8221;</p>
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