1 – Did you know 2G technology is plenty of speed for how the Blackberry was designed?

Is GSM secure?
From the outset, GSM has been a system designed with stringent levels of inbuilt security. With constantly enhanced transmission protocols and algorithms added to the flexible and future proof platform, GSM remains the most secure public wireless standard in the world.
http://www.gsmworld.com/technology/faq.shtml

GSM Security and Encryption
by David Margrave, George Mason University
http://www.hackcanada.com/blackcrawl/cell/gsm/gsm-secur/gsm-secur.html
The security and authentication mechanisms incorporated in GSM make it the most secure mobile communication standard currently available, particularly in comparison to the analog systems described above. Part of the enhanced security of GSM is due to the fact that it is a digital system utilizing a speech coding algorithm, Gaussian Minimum Shift Keying (GMSK) digital modulation, slow frequency hopping, and Time Division Multiple Access (TDMA) time slot architecture.

Way back in ‘02 the NSA (National Security Agency) went GSM. Why? (2002 figures) “GSM is the fastest growing wireless telecommunications technology around the world, with over 646 million users spanning 168 countries, and more than 400 GSM network operators worldwide. “GSM is clearly the best wireless service for carriers and consumers alike,” said Tim Wong, executive vice president and chief technology officer of VoiceStream, a leading wireless service provider of GSM. “It is the most successful digital standard, bringing the benefits of global roaming to consumers and economies of scale to operators. The combination of GSM, Type 1 security and VoiceStream’s offering of Wireless Priority Service provides the U.S. government with unprecedented capability for assured and protected communications for routine as well as national security and emergency preparedness missions.”

Verizon is upgrading it’s network to GSM/LTE. Making a argument based on FUD is “useless banter”.

The choice of service providing is exactly that choice, but the answer is clear for most. A standard, open, global GSM device IS a more desired choice than “a crippled cdma device on verizon”.

1)verizon with their “Open Development initiative”, and their network upgrade to GSM/LTE easily proves the answer to that question

2)Over 2.8 BILLION customers World Wide (Q1 2007) also easily proves the answer to that question.

fud debunked

I like Verizon for the coverage. I have considered other carriers, but until 3g is widely deployed by them, Verizon is the only logical choice. The was an article on Engadget last week that GSM can be easily hacked with equipment costing less than $1000. So what is better, a crippled CDMA device on Verizon, or a GSM with slower data that is easily hackable?

It’s not like reality didn’t show it for a while now but WOW there are a sad few here which have some real issues. Perhaps in addition to RIMarkable and iPhoneMarkable, you can open MentalMarkable too.

Delusional
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delusion
“A delusion is commonly defined as a fixed false belief and is used in everyday language to describe a belief that is either false, fanciful or derived from deception. In psychiatry, the definition is necessarily more precise and implies that the belief is pathological (the result of an illness or illness process). As a pathology it is distinct from a belief based on false or incomplete information or certain effects of perception which would more properly be termed an apperception or illusion.”

jhp2
#21. March 2nd, 2008, at 2:27 PM.
“If you do not like VZW, don’t use them. But no need to insult those of us who do.”

Thru your posts jhp2 you keep verifying YOUR problems…

Point out where anyone here at RIMarkable posts something about verizon where it pertains directly to jhp2. Since when do the FACTS and the TRUTH about a corporation “insult” anyone personally? Maybe you think it would help the sad few for everyone to distort the FACTS and TRUTH about verizon? If the FACTS and TRUTH are so painful and are a “insult” to some, it’s those themselves who are making it so. verizon wouldn’t be opening anything if people didn’t discuss reality.

“I can think of a comment or 142 where you’ve left a little stink that had nothing to do with the thread.”

Have a nice day

You still are adding nothing, playing games and thread crapping. Since when is posting the TRUTH and FACTS about verizon an “insult” to anyone?

Since when is it not acceptable to discuss verizon without a sad few fanboys getting their panties in a wad?

Sorry girls but yet again the threads are not about you and sure are not about me. Don’t spend any effort worrying what others will or won’t post. Don’t post your hopes and dreams about others, here at RIMarkable it’s not about personal crap.
For those who can’t handle adult discussion http://www.powderpuffmarkable.com The rest who can handle FACTS and TRUTHS will be here at RIMarkable posting on topic and with respect for Robb and RIMarkable.

And all this because I expressed concern over your mental health. I was looking out for you. Where is the luv?

TTFN.

Not getting “upset” about the topic of the thread, far from it in FACT. IMO verizon’s new initiative and path forward is a very good thing IF it’s sincere, honest, transparent and pro-consumer like it should be. (It’s no secret verizon has gotten caught multiple times in the past for “initiative” which have been not on the up and up and found to be untrue) verizon’s move to GSM/LTE (pushed by Voda) and this new open initiative could be a welcome and long over due step forward for verizon. The market is certainly making the service providers move in this direction some have been resisting it more than others. There is alot of money to be made for providing wireless service based on standard, open, global technology, there is no reason for non-standard, closed, proprietary technology when it comes to consumer communication. verizon might just learn providing the wireless service is alot more lucrative then spending $$$ to sell 3rd party proprietary, and cripple consumer devices.

Now as for the other BS the vealots have brought up….

However what is funny is the sad few verizon fanboys who in every thread that verizon is a topic or even could be a topic they thread crap and worry about what or if others are going to post. The verizon fanboy’s have made the example in this thread (as well as others) so clear. No intelligent thought is posted which add’s to RIMarkable on topic thread discussion, but plenty of ignorant thread crap’s by those desperate for attention more worried about if/what others are going to post. This poor behavior shows RIMarkable no respect, they USE RIMarkable and then crap all over it. The common thread with these sad few fanboy’s is verizon.

Was browsing the net looking for words to explain the sad few verizon fanboy’s here actions it’s funny but it seems they have a combination of “Stockholm Syndrome” and “cognitive dissonance” learning the TRUTH and FACTS about a service providing company they blindly trust.

Stockholm Syndrome has certain symptoms or behaviors according to Joseph M. Carver, PhD for Mental-Health-Matters.com.
These include:
A. Positive feelings by the victim toward the abuser/controller
B. Negative feelings by the victim toward family, friends, or authorities trying to rescue/support them or win their release
C. Support of the abuser’s reasons and behaviors
D. Positive feelings by the abuser toward the victim
E. Supportive behaviors by the victim, at times helping the abuser
F. Inability to engage in behaviors that may assist in their release or detachment

According to Dr. Carver, four situations or conditions must be present that serve as a foundation for the development of Stockholm Syndrome:
A. The presence of a perceived threat to one’s physical or psychological survival and the belief that the abuser would carry out the threat
B. The presence of a perceived small kindness from the abuser to the victim
C. Isolation from perspectives other than those of the abuser
D. The perceived inability to escape the situation

“‘Cognitive Dissonance’ explains how and why people change their ideas and opinions to support situations that do not appear to be healthy, positive, or normal. In the theory, an individual seeks to reduce information or opinions that make him or her uncomfortable. Even though we might find ourselves in a foolish or difficult situation, few want to admit that fact – the more you invest (income, job, home, time, effort, etc.) the stronger your need to justify your position.”

Defending verizon a sign of mental illness? Survey says YES! especially when the TRUTH and FACTS are pointed out by those in the know.

Defending Windows over Mac a sign of mental illness
http://macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/490/opinion/
Remove “Windows over Mac” and insert “verizon” and this theory fit’s our verizon fanboy’s here.

You say the same stuff in every post that has anything to do with Verizon. There is no question in any regular RIMarkable readers mind that you detest Verizon and feel that anyone who would even contemplate using this is a few cards of of a full deck.

You can’t get too upset if Verizon, at least on the surface, does something the contradicts points you’ve made over and over and over again and someone gets a light hearted jab in, now can you?

I can think of a comment or 142 where you’ve left a little stink that had nothing to do with the thread.

My comment policy, or lack there of, applies or doesn’t apply. as the case may be, equally to everyone.