Comments on: Verizon Decides To Standardize Picking LTE For 4G Network http://www.rimarkable.com/verizon-decides-to-standardize-picking-lte-for-4g-network The Unofficial BlackBerry Weblog Fri, 10 Feb 2012 09:11:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: hellno http://www.rimarkable.com/verizon-decides-to-standardize-picking-lte-for-4g-network/comment-page-1#comment-102997 hellno Wed, 26 Sep 2007 05:19:43 +0000 http://www.rimarkable.com/verizon-decides-to-standardize-picking-lte-for-4g-network#comment-102997 Come back when you figure out the TRUTH, not what verizon tells you first person, or pays others to tell you. Till then your continued BS posts are just showing the rest of us the proof of cdma fanboy ignorance. The topic of the thread is based on verizon DUMPING cdma and upgrading to the open, global, standard GSM family of technology. This is a positive thing verizon is doing. There is nothing any fanboy can say or do to change the FACTS. Accept it, or not but verizon IS DUMPING cdma and upgrading to the open, global, standard GSM. Over 2.6 BILLION consumers can understand GSM is just as good, if not better than closed, crippled, proprietary cdma which is going, going GONE. Heres a news flash JHP2, no one particularly cares what you feel is acceptable GSM technology to make you follow the rest of the sheep over to GSM, stay with your outdated devices, your closed, cripple, devices. Keep bowing to verizon and qualcomm. 2.6 BILLION consumers can enjoy GSM (even more when verizon switches over to GSM) with the only global, standard, open technology GSM. verizon loves ignorant sheep which believe any FUD which comes from verizon’s mouth, so keep up the good work showing all of us your true lack of knowledge and understanding of the facts. Come back when you figure out the TRUTH, not what verizon tells you first person, or pays others to tell you. Till then your continued BS posts are just showing the rest of us the proof of cdma fanboy ignorance.

The topic of the thread is based on verizon DUMPING cdma and upgrading to the open, global, standard GSM family of technology. This is a positive thing verizon is doing. There is nothing any fanboy can say or do to change the FACTS. Accept it, or not but verizon IS DUMPING cdma and upgrading to the open, global, standard GSM. Over 2.6 BILLION consumers can understand GSM is just as good, if not better than closed, crippled, proprietary cdma which is going, going GONE. Heres a news flash JHP2, no one particularly cares what you feel is acceptable GSM technology to make you follow the rest of the sheep over to GSM, stay with your outdated devices, your closed, cripple, devices. Keep bowing to verizon and qualcomm. 2.6 BILLION consumers can enjoy GSM (even more when verizon switches over to GSM) with the only global, standard, open technology GSM.

verizon loves ignorant sheep which believe any FUD which comes from verizon’s mouth, so keep up the good work showing all of us your true lack of knowledge and understanding of the facts.

]]> By: JHP2 http://www.rimarkable.com/verizon-decides-to-standardize-picking-lte-for-4g-network/comment-page-1#comment-102965 JHP2 Wed, 26 Sep 2007 01:24:59 +0000 http://www.rimarkable.com/verizon-decides-to-standardize-picking-lte-for-4g-network#comment-102965 W/E I have always qualified my posts by restricting myself to the US market. The standard in Europe means little when I am traveling in the US and have limited GSM coverage and slow-ass EDGE data. I have said repeatedly that when I get the voice coverage and data speed I currently experience with VZW, I will gladly switch. That willingness to switch makes me a fanboy, eh? In the meantime, I will enjoy wide voice coverage on VZW and fast EVDO Rev A data on Sprint. Have I mentioned that my observations are backed by personal experience, Gartner's analysis and Consumer Reports? Yes. Your response, "FUD (never met anyone in 10+ years of sales that used the word as much as you in one post BTW), FANboy, Worldwide users, FUD, FanBoy, Worldwide users....." Frankly, I never met anyone who cared as much about a network technology as you. Do you spend your nights in the dark surfing GSM sites and typing one-handed? W/E

I have always qualified my posts by restricting myself to the US market. The standard in Europe means little when I am traveling in the US and have limited GSM coverage and slow-ass EDGE data. I have said repeatedly that when I get the voice coverage and data speed I currently experience with VZW, I will gladly switch. That willingness to switch makes me a fanboy, eh? In the meantime, I will enjoy wide voice coverage on VZW and fast EVDO Rev A data on Sprint. Have I mentioned that my observations are backed by personal experience, Gartner’s analysis and Consumer Reports? Yes.

Your response, “FUD (never met anyone in 10+ years of sales that used the word as much as you in one post BTW), FANboy, Worldwide users, FUD, FanBoy, Worldwide users…..”

Frankly, I never met anyone who cared as much about a network technology as you. Do you spend your nights in the dark surfing GSM sites and typing one-handed?

]]> By: hellno http://www.rimarkable.com/verizon-decides-to-standardize-picking-lte-for-4g-network/comment-page-1#comment-102963 hellno Wed, 26 Sep 2007 01:09:10 +0000 http://www.rimarkable.com/verizon-decides-to-standardize-picking-lte-for-4g-network#comment-102963 Ah, another spin job. You might bring FUD up using words like "Best" and "Strongest" but most here know thats pittyful fanboy talk and ignore it. There is not much point commenting on BS other than pointing it out for the FUD it is. Wrong again... The Global, open, standards of GSM mean alot more to all consumers even if they don't travel. Just look at the devices available why no top tier, current handsets available for cdma? We'll because it's cdma, because it has less than a 1/16th the consumers which use GSM, because of qualcomm and all the BS that comes along with doing business with them... the list goes on and on why cdma is the odd technology out. Global standards also means when one goes on vacation or travels on business there will most likely be service there. cdma's footprint is a small pimple compared to GSM, cdma's footprint has been shrinking while GSM's has been expanding. Teaching all these BASIC'S which anyone who knows anything about wireless communication technology already knows. What over 2.6 BILLION people already know. Few holdouts are fighting a loosing battle based on FUD and BS now that verizon has changed it's tune, is dropping cdma and will be upgrading it's network to the global standard GSM. It doesn't matter if cdma is beta vrs. GSM being like VHS. VHS got the job done and while doing so BEAT beta, just like GSM is doing to cdma. Unless you have a problem (by your posts we know you do, just nod and accept another FACT) GSM can and does provide all the quality that cdma does. Over 2.6 BILLION consumers GLOBALLY say GSM quality provides a more than addiquit job. You seem strangely happy to point out the FUD that qualcomm "has patents everywhere" if true do you think this is a good thing for consumer wireless communication? The industry has shown qualcomm patent claims are not as solid as they think they are. qualcomm is nothing but another NTP or SCO and we've seen SCO come and go. The industry will NOT be held hostage to qualcomm's FUD and BS patents as Nokia and Broadcomm have shown. qualcomm/verizon have retarded the wireless industry for years and are the reason why the US is always behind Europe in our wireless technology. We'll allow you to go back and LEARN the TRUTH about qualcomm before you start spouting FUD about them too, which is just more of that "fanboy talk" FUD being ignored as pointed out above. Since when was the iPhone the only GSM device? Pointed out above verizon is a service provider, Apple is a device designer and manufacture the two have nothing to do with each other. Unless your somehow trying to imply verizon is being forced into upgrading to GSM technology because of Apple and the iPhone? If not your "fanboy talk" comparison is nothing but "fanboy talk" and again see above what response "fanboy talk" is worth. Since when was the iPhone the only device to receive a carrier lock? RIM BB's have carrier locks, some Nokia's have carrier locks. You can also spend more and either get them unlock OR buy a device without the carrier lock, but again only the freedom of GSM gives you that ability, verizon refuses to activate any cdma device which is not their own, that is if you can even find a cdma device to buy unbranded in the first place. GSM freedom is a great thing, slap a SIM card into any unlocked GSM device and off you go. verizon loves ignorant sheep which believe any FUD which comes from verizon's mouth, so keep up the good work showing all of us your true lack of knowledge when it comes to cdma and GSM. As we all watch verizon drop it's BEAT beta cdma network for a brand new network based on the open, global, standard GSM family of technologies. The future is bright for consumer mobile technology with verizon's LTE forward move, even if each customer of mcwireless needs to be finally taught the difference between the TRUTH and the FUD. Ah, another spin job. You might bring FUD up using words like “Best” and “Strongest” but most here know thats pittyful fanboy talk and ignore it. There is not much point commenting on BS other than pointing it out for the FUD it is.

Wrong again… The Global, open, standards of GSM mean alot more to all consumers even if they don’t travel. Just look at the devices available why no top tier, current handsets available for cdma? We’ll because it’s cdma, because it has less than a 1/16th the consumers which use GSM, because of qualcomm and all the BS that comes along with doing business with them… the list goes on and on why cdma is the odd technology out. Global standards also means when one goes on vacation or travels on business there will most likely be service there. cdma’s footprint is a small pimple compared to GSM, cdma’s footprint has been shrinking while GSM’s has been expanding. Teaching all these BASIC’S which anyone who knows anything about wireless communication technology already knows. What over 2.6 BILLION people already know. Few holdouts are fighting a loosing battle based on FUD and BS now that verizon has changed it’s tune, is dropping cdma and will be upgrading it’s network to the global standard GSM.

It doesn’t matter if cdma is beta vrs. GSM being like VHS. VHS got the job done and while doing so BEAT beta, just like GSM is doing to cdma.

Unless you have a problem (by your posts we know you do, just nod and accept another FACT) GSM can and does provide all the quality that cdma does. Over 2.6 BILLION consumers GLOBALLY say GSM quality provides a more than addiquit job.

You seem strangely happy to point out the FUD that qualcomm “has patents everywhere” if true do you think this is a good thing for consumer wireless communication? The industry has shown qualcomm patent claims are not as solid as they think they are. qualcomm is nothing but another NTP or SCO and we’ve seen SCO come and go. The industry will NOT be held hostage to qualcomm’s FUD and BS patents as Nokia and Broadcomm have shown. qualcomm/verizon have retarded the wireless industry for years and are the reason why the US is always behind Europe in our wireless technology. We’ll allow you to go back and LEARN the TRUTH about qualcomm before you start spouting FUD about them too, which is just more of that “fanboy talk” FUD being ignored as pointed out above.

Since when was the iPhone the only GSM device? Pointed out above verizon is a service provider, Apple is a device designer and manufacture the two have nothing to do with each other. Unless your somehow trying to imply verizon is being forced into upgrading to GSM technology because of Apple and the iPhone? If not your “fanboy talk” comparison is nothing but “fanboy talk” and again see above what response “fanboy talk” is worth.

Since when was the iPhone the only device to receive a carrier lock? RIM BB’s have carrier locks, some Nokia’s have carrier locks. You can also spend more and either get them unlock OR buy a device without the carrier lock, but again only the freedom of GSM gives you that ability, verizon refuses to activate any cdma device which is not their own, that is if you can even find a cdma device to buy unbranded in the first place. GSM freedom is a great thing, slap a SIM card into any unlocked GSM device and off you go.

verizon loves ignorant sheep which believe any FUD which comes from verizon’s mouth, so keep up the good work showing all of us your true lack of knowledge when it comes to cdma and GSM. As we all watch verizon drop it’s BEAT beta cdma network for a brand new network based on the open, global, standard GSM family of technologies. The future is bright for consumer mobile technology with verizon’s LTE forward move, even if each customer of mcwireless needs to be finally taught the difference between the TRUTH and the FUD.

]]> By: JHP2 http://www.rimarkable.com/verizon-decides-to-standardize-picking-lte-for-4g-network/comment-page-1#comment-102894 JHP2 Tue, 25 Sep 2007 17:44:21 +0000 http://www.rimarkable.com/verizon-decides-to-standardize-picking-lte-for-4g-network#comment-102894 As I was saying: Apple Warns Of Irreparable Damage From Unlocking iPhone Besides breaking the warranty, modified devices may become inoperable when this week's iTunes update is released, Apple said. By Antone Gonsalves InformationWeek September 24, 2007 06:02 PM Apple on Monday warned that unlocking programs used to connect the iPhone to cellular networks other than AT&T (T)'s cause "irreparable damage" that would likely result in the modified device becoming inoperable when this week's Apple-supplied software update is released. Apple also said in a statement that iPhone customers that make unauthorized modifications to the device's software violate the software license agreement and void the iPhone warranty. "The permanent inability to use an iPhone due to installing unlocking software is not covered under the iPhone's warranty," the company said in a statement. A group of anonymous developers at iPhoneSIMfree started selling this month software that, once installed, would enable the smart phone to work on any service provider with a standard GSM SIM card. T-Mobile is an example of a carrier that would work on the modified iPhone. Apple said it has found that many unlocking programs available on the Internet "cause irreparable damage to the iPhone's software, which will likely result in the modified iPhone becoming permanently inoperable when a future Apple-supplied iPhone software update is installed." But hey, it works on the WW standard! As I was saying:

Apple Warns Of Irreparable Damage From Unlocking iPhone
Besides breaking the warranty, modified devices may become inoperable when this week’s iTunes update is released, Apple said.

By Antone Gonsalves
InformationWeek
September 24, 2007 06:02 PM

Apple on Monday warned that unlocking programs used to connect the iPhone to cellular networks other than AT&T (T)’s cause “irreparable damage” that would likely result in the modified device becoming inoperable when this week’s Apple-supplied software update is released.
Apple also said in a statement that iPhone customers that make unauthorized modifications to the device’s software violate the software license agreement and void the iPhone warranty. “The permanent inability to use an iPhone due to installing unlocking software is not covered under the iPhone’s warranty,” the company said in a statement.

A group of anonymous developers at iPhoneSIMfree started selling this month software that, once installed, would enable the smart phone to work on any service provider with a standard GSM SIM card. T-Mobile is an example of a carrier that would work on the modified iPhone.

Apple said it has found that many unlocking programs available on the Internet “cause irreparable damage to the iPhone’s software, which will likely result in the modified iPhone becoming permanently inoperable when a future Apple-supplied iPhone software update is installed.”

But hey, it works on the WW standard!

]]> By: JHP2 http://www.rimarkable.com/verizon-decides-to-standardize-picking-lte-for-4g-network/comment-page-1#comment-102893 JHP2 Tue, 25 Sep 2007 17:41:44 +0000 http://www.rimarkable.com/verizon-decides-to-standardize-picking-lte-for-4g-network#comment-102893 GSM may be open, but if the phone is locked to a carrier as is the iPhone currently in the US, it is every bit as proprietary as a phone locked to a CDMA carrier. GSM may be open, but if the phone is locked to a carrier as is the iPhone currently in the US, it is every bit as proprietary as a phone locked to a CDMA carrier.

]]> By: JHP2 http://www.rimarkable.com/verizon-decides-to-standardize-picking-lte-for-4g-network/comment-page-1#comment-102891 JHP2 Tue, 25 Sep 2007 17:38:41 +0000 http://www.rimarkable.com/verizon-decides-to-standardize-picking-lte-for-4g-network#comment-102891 Actually, the point that CDMA has better voice and data quality was raised several times. You choose to ignore it. Just like you choose to ignore that Gartner and others agree that Verizon's CDMA network is the strongest in the US. Global acceptance means nothing if you do not travel globally. And Ned made an excellent point regarding quality versus adoption with the BetaMax example. For most of us, it is about voice and data quality and coverage. I will change in a minute when ATT can meet my needs better than VZW. I do not care if it is two cans and a string as long as it works. YOU care about the technology. Seriously, does it really matter that much? Or did VZW hurt your feelings that badly? Last, you do realize qualcomm wins no matter what happens as they have patents everywhere. Actually, the point that CDMA has better voice and data quality was raised several times. You choose to ignore it. Just like you choose to ignore that Gartner and others agree that Verizon’s CDMA network is the strongest in the US. Global acceptance means nothing if you do not travel globally. And Ned made an excellent point regarding quality versus adoption with the BetaMax example. For most of us, it is about voice and data quality and coverage. I will change in a minute when ATT can meet my needs better than VZW. I do not care if it is two cans and a string as long as it works. YOU care about the technology. Seriously, does it really matter that much? Or did VZW hurt your feelings that badly?

Last, you do realize qualcomm wins no matter what happens as they have patents everywhere.

]]> By: hellno http://www.rimarkable.com/verizon-decides-to-standardize-picking-lte-for-4g-network/comment-page-1#comment-102884 hellno Tue, 25 Sep 2007 16:59:34 +0000 http://www.rimarkable.com/verizon-decides-to-standardize-picking-lte-for-4g-network#comment-102884 Your right "Proprietary is proprietary" cdma is proprietary GSM is an open standard which is developed by the 3GPP. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GSM Your right “Proprietary is proprietary”

cdma is proprietary

GSM is an open standard which is developed by the 3GPP.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GSM

]]> By: hellno http://www.rimarkable.com/verizon-decides-to-standardize-picking-lte-for-4g-network/comment-page-1#comment-102858 hellno Tue, 25 Sep 2007 13:54:09 +0000 http://www.rimarkable.com/verizon-decides-to-standardize-picking-lte-for-4g-network#comment-102858 "What has better voice quality and data coverage in the USA?" Didn't notice that question was asked, or asked seriously, but there is no noticeable difference, your just desperately trying any number of cdma fanboy FUD sadly so typical. Just like verizon, nice spin yourself to try and align yourself with the truth. Lucky over 2.6 BILLION know the facts that GSM technology can and DOES provide quality, data speed, coverage globally. verizon knows cdma technology is not the way forward and is desperately crushing the hopes and dreams of cdma fanboys, qualcomm, and will be spending BIG bucks to upgrade all their old cdma technology to GSM. There is going to be big kmart blue light special sale on old junky cdma gear soon, too bad there is no market for it since the other small number of cdma providers have also been upgrading cdma gear with open, global, standard, GSM. Sadly it seems some cdma and verizon fanboys will just never be able to understand reality. “What has better voice quality and data coverage in the USA?”

Didn’t notice that question was asked, or asked seriously, but there is no noticeable difference, your just desperately trying any number of cdma fanboy FUD sadly so typical. Just like verizon, nice spin yourself to try and align yourself with the truth.

Lucky over 2.6 BILLION know the facts that GSM technology can and DOES provide quality, data speed, coverage globally. verizon knows cdma technology is not the way forward and is desperately crushing the hopes and dreams of cdma fanboys, qualcomm, and will be spending BIG bucks to upgrade all their old cdma technology to GSM. There is going to be big kmart blue light special sale on old junky cdma gear soon, too bad there is no market for it since the other small number of cdma providers have also been upgrading cdma gear with open, global, standard, GSM.

Sadly it seems some cdma and verizon fanboys will just never be able to understand reality.

]]> By: JHP2 http://www.rimarkable.com/verizon-decides-to-standardize-picking-lte-for-4g-network/comment-page-1#comment-102777 JHP2 Tue, 25 Sep 2007 00:57:35 +0000 http://www.rimarkable.com/verizon-decides-to-standardize-picking-lte-for-4g-network#comment-102777 Another thing, Ned and Eric both make an excellent point; We are not married to the technology. We could care less who or what it is, we just want the best call quality, highest data speed in more places and best coverage. When someone can show me a better combination than Verizon, I will switch. I have the $200! Until then, I am on Verizon because I think it has the best network. Gartner Group and Consumer Report agree with that assertion. Another thing, Ned and Eric both make an excellent point; We are not married to the technology. We could care less who or what it is, we just want the best call quality, highest data speed in more places and best coverage. When someone can show me a better combination than Verizon, I will switch. I have the $200!

Until then, I am on Verizon because I think it has the best network. Gartner Group and Consumer Report agree with that assertion.

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