Comments on: Top 10 Reasons RIM Needs To Update The BlackBerry Browser Immediately http://www.rimarkable.com/top-10-reasons-rim-needs-to-update-the-blackberry-browser-immediately The Unofficial BlackBerry Weblog Fri, 19 Mar 2010 21:54:52 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Mikehttp://www.rimarkable.com/top-10-reasons-rim-needs-to-update-the-blackberry-browser-immediately/comment-page-1#comment-129103 Mike Fri, 05 Mar 2010 01:43:56 +0000 http://www.rimarkable.com/?p=5793#comment-129103 Not too sure why RIM wants to develop a browser. If I was them I would ask Google to help develop Chrome for the BlackBerry and replace the native browser with that. I'm sure Google would be in favor of this. Their major software goal seems to be to find a way to get Chrome on as many devices as possible. Creating Android and Chrome OS were round about ways of doing this. Apple has Safari and will not allow this, but I think there is potential for RIM here to go with Chrome. Then BlackBerry would have the fastest, most standards compliant browser, and it would cost them less money. Of course they would be giving control of searching over to Google. Seems like a win-win situation for both companies, since RIM is not really in the advertising business like Google. Not too sure why RIM wants to develop a browser. If I was them I would ask Google to help develop Chrome for the BlackBerry and replace the native browser with that. I’m sure Google would be in favor of this. Their major software goal seems to be to find a way to get Chrome on as many devices as possible. Creating Android and Chrome OS were round about ways of doing this. Apple has Safari and will not allow this, but I think there is potential for RIM here to go with Chrome. Then BlackBerry would have the fastest, most standards compliant browser, and it would cost them less money. Of course they would be giving control of searching over to Google. Seems like a win-win situation for both companies, since RIM is not really in the advertising business like Google.

]]> By: Johnhttp://www.rimarkable.com/top-10-reasons-rim-needs-to-update-the-blackberry-browser-immediately/comment-page-1#comment-128937 John Fri, 26 Feb 2010 20:48:36 +0000 http://www.rimarkable.com/?p=5793#comment-128937 Mike, of course we are looking at the issue from a user's perspective...we are users of blackberries. The user experience is weak as it relates to using the mobile web through a browser. Obviously there are several components in play here that create the poor user experience on a blackberry but we are all clamoring for a better product from RIM. Mike, of course we are looking at the issue from a user’s perspective…we are users of blackberries. The user experience is weak as it relates to using the mobile web through a browser. Obviously there are several components in play here that create the poor user experience on a blackberry but we are all clamoring for a better product from RIM.

]]> By: Mikehttp://www.rimarkable.com/top-10-reasons-rim-needs-to-update-the-blackberry-browser-immediately/comment-page-1#comment-128936 Mike Fri, 26 Feb 2010 18:34:45 +0000 http://www.rimarkable.com/?p=5793#comment-128936 As a web developer I have to disagree with nearly all 10 of your reasons here many of which are simply not valid, are very subjective, or are not even reasons at all. You are looking at things from a user's perspective and don't really understand what's really going on. The real issue here is inconsistency with html, css, and javascript standards across blackberry devices. For example support for onclick attributes, margins, padding, XMLHttp, ridiculously small screen pixel widths on some devices, width on input elements in stylesheets, alignment of text in buttons, support for tables, default browser settings (disabled css, javascript, & background images), just to name some of the more annoying ones. The most annoying for most people is probably that onclick one, since many clickable elements in a normal browser will not work on many blackberries models. As a web developer I have to disagree with nearly all 10 of your reasons here many of which are simply not valid, are very subjective, or are not even reasons at all. You are looking at things from a user’s perspective and don’t really understand what’s really going on. The real issue here is inconsistency with html, css, and javascript standards across blackberry devices. For example support for onclick attributes, margins, padding, XMLHttp, ridiculously small screen pixel widths on some devices, width on input elements in stylesheets, alignment of text in buttons, support for tables, default browser settings (disabled css, javascript, & background images), just to name some of the more annoying ones. The most annoying for most people is probably that onclick one, since many clickable elements in a normal browser will not work on many blackberries models.

]]> By: Markhttp://www.rimarkable.com/top-10-reasons-rim-needs-to-update-the-blackberry-browser-immediately/comment-page-1#comment-128727 Mark Tue, 16 Feb 2010 17:27:05 +0000 http://www.rimarkable.com/?p=5793#comment-128727 I agree with most of the comments here. I have a Blackberry 8900. Email is a joy to use on it - congratulations to Blackberry there, but the browsing experience is very disappointing.My Symbian equipped Nokia E51 loads a web page in a fraction of the time with what seems to be a better implementation of Javascript and better page rendering too.Any sign from Blackberry that a new browser is coming? I agree with most of the comments here. I have a Blackberry 8900. Email is a joy to use on it – congratulations to Blackberry there, but the browsing experience is very disappointing.

My Symbian equipped Nokia E51 loads a web page in a fraction of the time with what seems to be a better implementation of Javascript and better page rendering too.

Any sign from Blackberry that a new browser is coming?

]]> By: Another userhttp://www.rimarkable.com/top-10-reasons-rim-needs-to-update-the-blackberry-browser-immediately/comment-page-1#comment-128657 Another user Fri, 12 Feb 2010 03:31:55 +0000 http://www.rimarkable.com/?p=5793#comment-128657 agreed, 10 reasons aren't needed. I have the tour and think the browser sucks. I too find myself using my ipod touch for mobile browsing. I stopped into my local verizon store to see if there was anything they could do. No luck but the customer service agent said RIM is working right now to upgrade the browser. Apparently the over all opinion is the same, poor. Hopefully we will see an upgrade soon. agreed, 10 reasons aren’t needed. I have the tour and think the browser sucks. I too find myself using my ipod touch for mobile browsing. I stopped into my local verizon store to see if there was anything they could do. No luck but the customer service agent said RIM is working right now to upgrade the browser. Apparently the over all opinion is the same, poor. Hopefully we will see an upgrade soon.

]]> By: DVGhttp://www.rimarkable.com/top-10-reasons-rim-needs-to-update-the-blackberry-browser-immediately/comment-page-1#comment-125713 DVG Fri, 23 Oct 2009 07:55:23 +0000 http://www.rimarkable.com/?p=5793#comment-125713 I have had a BB Bold for a year now and I really love the fast CPU and the full keyboard. My girlfriend has an iPhone 3GS and I do not like typing on it. I can send text messages and e-mail so much more easily from the BB. However, the BB browser is poor. Even Opera is poor. When I need to do something simple that requires the WWW she can do it in seconds whereas often I cannot do it with the BB at all as it goes into a cycle of loading and reloading pages. The other day we were in the store and I wanted to look up a product review. I didn't even bother to use the BB. It would be futile. A common query is: "Do you have your iPhone with you?" I hate the iPhone for most of what it does (and so does she) but the web browsing experience is like night and day. I am very disappointed in RIM. iPhone has had a quality browser for some time now. This is not new to the 3GS. I have had a BB Bold for a year now and I really love the fast CPU and the full keyboard. My girlfriend has an iPhone 3GS and I do not like typing on it. I can send text messages and e-mail so much more easily from the BB. However, the BB browser is poor. Even Opera is poor. When I need to do something simple that requires the WWW she can do it in seconds whereas often I cannot do it with the BB at all as it goes into a cycle of loading and reloading pages. The other day we were in the store and I wanted to look up a product review. I didn’t even bother to use the BB. It would be futile. A common query is: “Do you have your iPhone with you?” I hate the iPhone for most of what it does (and so does she) but the web browsing experience is like night and day. I am very disappointed in RIM. iPhone has had a quality browser for some time now. This is not new to the 3GS.

]]> By: perry valtonhttp://www.rimarkable.com/top-10-reasons-rim-needs-to-update-the-blackberry-browser-immediately/comment-page-1#comment-124165 perry valton Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:28:18 +0000 http://www.rimarkable.com/?p=5793#comment-124165 I guess that why skyfire is been push on us, for so called leader in the mobile world RIM should and could have done much better it appers that RIM show total luck of respect for it's customers and the os is way outdated. (added by Mobile using <a href="http://mippin.com/?ref=commentposting" rel="nofollow">Mippin</a>) I guess that why skyfire is been push on us, for so called leader in the mobile world RIM should and could have done much better it appers that RIM show total luck of respect for it’s customers and the os is way outdated. (added by Mobile using Mippin)

]]> By: khttp://www.rimarkable.com/top-10-reasons-rim-needs-to-update-the-blackberry-browser-immediately/comment-page-1#comment-124149 k Wed, 12 Aug 2009 11:10:06 +0000 http://www.rimarkable.com/?p=5793#comment-124149 Since I am using MemoryBooster on my BlackBerry I can cross out number 6 from your list. So there are just 9 reasons left :) Since I am using MemoryBooster on my BlackBerry I can cross out number 6 from your list. So there are just 9 reasons left :)

]]> By: A Userhttp://www.rimarkable.com/top-10-reasons-rim-needs-to-update-the-blackberry-browser-immediately/comment-page-1#comment-124147 A User Wed, 12 Aug 2009 06:37:26 +0000 http://www.rimarkable.com/?p=5793#comment-124147 To be honest, BlackBerry and BlackBerry suck is not because other devices are better. It is because RIM is not trying to do better. New model? It is a joke. You remember Palm's form factor that never get change and end up eliminated from the market. I can see BlackBerry to have the same fate if no improvement any time soon, real soon. I don't see cooperate will stick with BlackBerry forever that keep RIM afloat. To be honest, BlackBerry and BlackBerry suck is not because other devices are better.
It is because RIM is not trying to do better. New model? It is a joke.
You remember Palm’s form factor that never get change and end up eliminated from the market. I can see BlackBerry to have the same fate if no improvement any time soon, real soon.
I don’t see cooperate will stick with BlackBerry forever that keep RIM afloat.

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