Comments on: So, Will Every Market Less RIM’s Largest Get The BlackBerry Bold In August? http://www.rimarkable.com/so-will-every-market-less-rims-largest-get-the-blackberry-bold-in-august The Official, Unofficial BlackBerry Weblog Wed, 19 Nov 2008 14:54:07 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Lisa http://www.rimarkable.com/so-will-every-market-less-rims-largest-get-the-blackberry-bold-in-august#comment-116304 Lisa Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:54:32 +0000 http://www.rimarkable.com/so-will-every-market-less-rims-largest-get-the-blackberry-bold-in-august#comment-116304 What about Sprint? All I here is talk of the Bold coming to AT&T. Is the Bold going to come to Sprint at all? I really like this phone and would love to buy it but I refue to switch to AT&T. Their plans suck. Does anyone know the answer? Please help me find out. What about Sprint? All I here is talk of the Bold coming to AT&T. Is the Bold going to come to Sprint at all? I really like this phone and would love to buy it but I refue to switch to AT&T. Their plans suck. Does anyone know the answer? Please help me find out.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.rimarkable.com/so-will-every-market-less-rims-largest-get-the-blackberry-bold-in-august#comment-116255 Anonymous Fri, 08 Aug 2008 15:49:21 +0000 http://www.rimarkable.com/so-will-every-market-less-rims-largest-get-the-blackberry-bold-in-august#comment-116255 I can't speak for the entire lot of BlackBerry Bolds, however the unit that I am currently rocking works like a champ. It will drain your battery if you spend all day browsing the web, but, it is not as big a battery hog as the iPhone. I can’t speak for the entire lot of BlackBerry Bolds, however the unit that I am currently rocking works like a champ.

It will drain your battery if you spend all day browsing the web, but, it is not as big a battery hog as the iPhone.

]]> By: Marc Fogel http://www.rimarkable.com/so-will-every-market-less-rims-largest-get-the-blackberry-bold-in-august#comment-116253 Marc Fogel Fri, 08 Aug 2008 13:39:36 +0000 http://www.rimarkable.com/so-will-every-market-less-rims-largest-get-the-blackberry-bold-in-august#comment-116253 Could this be the cause of the delay: http://www.fixmy3giphone.com Could this be the cause of the delay:

http://www.fixmy3giphone.com

]]> By: mike http://www.rimarkable.com/so-will-every-market-less-rims-largest-get-the-blackberry-bold-in-august#comment-116245 mike Fri, 08 Aug 2008 04:54:55 +0000 http://www.rimarkable.com/so-will-every-market-less-rims-largest-get-the-blackberry-bold-in-august#comment-116245 I just wish RIM would release the BOLD on faster CDMA networks, like sprint :) I just wish RIM would release the BOLD on faster CDMA networks, like sprint :)

]]> By: crazylegs http://www.rimarkable.com/so-will-every-market-less-rims-largest-get-the-blackberry-bold-in-august#comment-116244 crazylegs Fri, 08 Aug 2008 04:37:29 +0000 http://www.rimarkable.com/so-will-every-market-less-rims-largest-get-the-blackberry-bold-in-august#comment-116244 @ Macvista - all those things you say are wonderful for iPhone. But you completely miss the point. I don't care about the top 150 mln units sold globally. I'm looking at how to convert that next 500 mln mobile phone buyers to smartphone, data buying customers. At&t prices iPhone data at either $30 personal, $45 enterprise or nothing. RIM is out there working with carriers to lower pricing on their email service. That will drive adoption as many will pay an extra $10, or any incremental amount, to get BB email (and they"ll sell the device for close to 0$). That"s a huge difference compared to $199 or $299 upfront and the full $30 data charge. AT&T could never drive iPhone data pricing down that way simply because users love the devices so much. They use them nonstop, taking capacity and bandwidth. (you gotta love the google search stats for iPhone vs everything else!) This will inevitably will lead to required upgrades and capex (capital flowing AWAY from at&t). On the other hand, RIM compresses everything through their network, so their devices use less network capacity. So BBs upsell data and respect your network? That"s a far more valuable partner. and last, please use some simple reason. the quote makes no sense: “The iPhone has repositioned AT&T as the premier wireless brand in the world,” How is that? Aren't there another 70 or so carriers lined up? AT&T is doing nothing different with iPhone than any other carrier. @ Macvista - all those things you say are wonderful for iPhone. But you completely miss the point. I don’t care about the top 150 mln units sold globally. I’m looking at how to convert that next 500 mln mobile phone buyers to smartphone, data buying customers.

At&t prices iPhone data at either $30 personal, $45 enterprise or nothing. RIM is out there working with carriers to lower pricing on their email service. That will drive adoption as many will pay an extra $10, or any incremental amount, to get BB email (and they”ll sell the device for close to 0$). That”s a huge difference compared to $199 or $299 upfront and the full $30 data charge.

AT&T could never drive iPhone data pricing down that way simply because users love the devices so much. They use them nonstop, taking capacity and bandwidth. (you gotta love the google search stats for iPhone vs everything else!) This will inevitably will lead to required upgrades and capex (capital flowing AWAY from at&t).

On the other hand, RIM compresses everything through their network, so their devices use less network capacity. So BBs upsell data and respect your network? That”s a far more valuable partner.

and last, please use some simple reason. the quote makes no sense:

“The iPhone has repositioned AT&T as the premier wireless brand in the world,”

How is that? Aren’t there another 70 or so carriers lined up? AT&T is doing nothing different with iPhone than any other carrier.

]]> By: Thought http://www.rimarkable.com/so-will-every-market-less-rims-largest-get-the-blackberry-bold-in-august#comment-116240 Thought Fri, 08 Aug 2008 01:49:48 +0000 http://www.rimarkable.com/so-will-every-market-less-rims-largest-get-the-blackberry-bold-in-august#comment-116240 The iPhone is changing wireless, regardless of what one thinks of the device vs a BB. Now RIM is still very well positioned, and is not going away. That makes it all the more ridiculous that the Bold should be delayed this way. The iPhone has been released in other countries, but the Bold is being launched as well. There's plenty of room for both, and what RIM should have done is simply put a rush on releasing the Bold on VZW. That would teach ATT a lesson. Instead, they're putting priority on the Thunder, which is all well and fine, but the Bold on VZW would sell far better. The iPhone is changing wireless, regardless of what one thinks of the device vs a BB.

Now RIM is still very well positioned, and is not going away. That makes it all the more ridiculous that the Bold should be delayed this way. The iPhone has been released in other countries, but the Bold is being launched as well.

There’s plenty of room for both, and what RIM should have done is simply put a rush on releasing the Bold on VZW. That would teach ATT a lesson.

Instead, they’re putting priority on the Thunder, which is all well and fine, but the Bold on VZW would sell far better.

]]> By: Patrick http://www.rimarkable.com/so-will-every-market-less-rims-largest-get-the-blackberry-bold-in-august#comment-116236 Patrick Thu, 07 Aug 2008 21:46:52 +0000 http://www.rimarkable.com/so-will-every-market-less-rims-largest-get-the-blackberry-bold-in-august#comment-116236 I wonder if it has been delayed to prevent iPhone returns? If they wait at least 30 days from the launch of the iPhone 3G then they may be able to get some ETFs! I wonder if it has been delayed to prevent iPhone returns? If they wait at least 30 days from the launch of the iPhone 3G then they may be able to get some ETFs!

]]> By: MacVicta http://www.rimarkable.com/so-will-every-market-less-rims-largest-get-the-blackberry-bold-in-august#comment-116230 MacVicta Thu, 07 Aug 2008 16:30:28 +0000 http://www.rimarkable.com/so-will-every-market-less-rims-largest-get-the-blackberry-bold-in-august#comment-116230 @ crazylegs AT&T favors Apple because they benefit from the iPhone halo effect. Having the hottest phone on the planet exclusively to yourself in the US is great for your brand. RIM would've never produced a device that could bring a carrier so much capital. From the USAToday article about the AT&T/Apple relationship that came out a few days ago: "The iPhone has repositioned AT&T as the premier wireless brand in the world," "We're not betting on the handset," [AT&T CEO Stephenson] says, reflecting on that fateful 2005 decision to lock arms with Apple. "We're betting on Jobs." http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/telecom/2008-07-31-att-iphone-stephenson-apple_N.htm @ crazylegs

AT&T favors Apple because they benefit from the iPhone halo effect. Having the hottest phone on the planet exclusively to yourself in the US is great for your brand. RIM would’ve never produced a device that could bring a carrier so much capital.

From the USAToday article about the AT&T/Apple relationship that came out a few days ago:

“The iPhone has repositioned AT&T as the premier wireless brand in the world,”

“We’re not betting on the handset,” [AT&T CEO Stephenson] says, reflecting on that fateful 2005 decision to lock arms with Apple. “We’re betting on Jobs.”

http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/telecom/2008-07-31-att-iphone-stephenson-apple_N.htm

]]> By: Ed M. http://www.rimarkable.com/so-will-every-market-less-rims-largest-get-the-blackberry-bold-in-august#comment-116229 Ed M. Thu, 07 Aug 2008 14:21:20 +0000 http://www.rimarkable.com/so-will-every-market-less-rims-largest-get-the-blackberry-bold-in-august#comment-116229 The reason the BOLD release date has been pushed back is because at&t cares more about crapple and the crapphone then RIM and BlackBerry, plain and simple!!!! at&t you suck!!! RIM RULES, BB RULES!!! down with crapple and the crapphone!!! long live RIM!!!! WoooooooooHoooooooooo!!!! The reason the BOLD release date has been pushed back is because at&t cares more about crapple and the crapphone then RIM and BlackBerry, plain and simple!!!! at&t you suck!!! RIM RULES, BB RULES!!! down with crapple and the crapphone!!! long live RIM!!!! WoooooooooHoooooooooo!!!!

]]> By: Tom http://www.rimarkable.com/so-will-every-market-less-rims-largest-get-the-blackberry-bold-in-august#comment-116228 Tom Thu, 07 Aug 2008 13:58:42 +0000 http://www.rimarkable.com/so-will-every-market-less-rims-largest-get-the-blackberry-bold-in-august#comment-116228 Is RIM so afraid of new devices having some technical problem they release them in smaller markets first? They sure don't act like a market leader. Is RIM so afraid of new devices having some technical problem they release them in smaller markets first? They sure don’t act like a market leader.

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