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	<title>Comments on: Should Microsoft come out with Zune MarketPlace for Windows Mobile?</title>
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		<title>By: manpan</title>
		<link>http://www.rimarkable.com/should-microsoft-come-out-with-zune-marketplace-for-windows-mobile/comment-page-1#comment-106139</link>
		<dc:creator>manpan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 06:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zune is a joke! No one should be buying them it will come to haunt you in future. No music bought from a Plays for Sure certified music download store i.e. service like Microsoft&#039;s own now defunct MSN Music, the Napster 2 Go, Wal Mart Music Downloads etc will even be able to play on the Zune because it uses a different DRM. Zune does not work with Plays for sure and anyone who bought Plays for Sure will have their content left out of Zune.

What&#039;s more Zune content via Zune Marketplace with DRM won&#039;t play on Plays for Sure certified devices. Zune does not work with Windows Media Player -- MS ditched Media Player for making a new program just for Zune and the software is not that great. 

Whether or not you get an iPod don&#039;t get a Zune. If I had to choose a Plays for Sure certified player -- well mp3 players like the Toshiba Gigabeat, the Creative Zen, a iRiver, a Dell Digital Juxebox etc (I think the Dell DJ has been discontinued) versus a Zune I would then get a Plays for Sure player like the ones mentioned above.

As it stands I like my iPod though and don&#039;t need a Plays for Sure player. Apple has now introduced new iPods with WiFI capabilities -- did u know the Zunes WiFI streaming capabilities are crippled. They limit wireless sharing to 3 plays or 3 days. Also Zunes only can share with other Zunes and there just aren&#039;t enough Zunes to share with -- it would make more sense for Microsoft to also offer Zune 2 Zen sharing, or Zune to iPod sharing etc in addition to Zune 2 Zune. Music shared from Zune to Zune can only be played on a friend&#039;s Zune 3 times after which it expires -- if you don&#039;t play it at all it will expire in 3 days -- whichever comes first.

WiFi is nice but the feature is crippled and Microsoft rather than provide a good player that is consumer friendly -- is focusing less on innovation and more on pleasing the record companies. It is restricting the Zunes features to make record labels happier and the offer to pay record labels a dollar for every Zune sold shows how misguided Microsoft is. They&#039;d rather make a player that screws customers and makes the RIAA happy than provide a decent player that when bought will provide a good experience.

As for DRM I don&#039;t like it and oppose it! I oppose DRM in Sony BMG&#039;s root-kit infected CDs -- remember the fiasco a few years back over this and the settlement reached in 2005? I oppose DRM in iTunes! I oppose DRM in Sony&#039;s Blu Ray which is why I refuse to buy a PS3. I refuse DRM from Microsoft so refuse to upgrade to Windows Vista and refuse to buy an XBox or XBox 360 and allow Microsoft to grow its monopoly further.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zune is a joke! No one should be buying them it will come to haunt you in future. No music bought from a Plays for Sure certified music download store i.e. service like Microsoft&#8217;s own now defunct MSN Music, the Napster 2 Go, Wal Mart Music Downloads etc will even be able to play on the Zune because it uses a different DRM. Zune does not work with Plays for sure and anyone who bought Plays for Sure will have their content left out of Zune.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s more Zune content via Zune Marketplace with DRM won&#8217;t play on Plays for Sure certified devices. Zune does not work with Windows Media Player &#8212; MS ditched Media Player for making a new program just for Zune and the software is not that great. </p>
<p>Whether or not you get an iPod don&#8217;t get a Zune. If I had to choose a Plays for Sure certified player &#8212; well mp3 players like the Toshiba Gigabeat, the Creative Zen, a iRiver, a Dell Digital Juxebox etc (I think the Dell DJ has been discontinued) versus a Zune I would then get a Plays for Sure player like the ones mentioned above.</p>
<p>As it stands I like my iPod though and don&#8217;t need a Plays for Sure player. Apple has now introduced new iPods with WiFI capabilities &#8212; did u know the Zunes WiFI streaming capabilities are crippled. They limit wireless sharing to 3 plays or 3 days. Also Zunes only can share with other Zunes and there just aren&#8217;t enough Zunes to share with &#8212; it would make more sense for Microsoft to also offer Zune 2 Zen sharing, or Zune to iPod sharing etc in addition to Zune 2 Zune. Music shared from Zune to Zune can only be played on a friend&#8217;s Zune 3 times after which it expires &#8212; if you don&#8217;t play it at all it will expire in 3 days &#8212; whichever comes first.</p>
<p>WiFi is nice but the feature is crippled and Microsoft rather than provide a good player that is consumer friendly &#8212; is focusing less on innovation and more on pleasing the record companies. It is restricting the Zunes features to make record labels happier and the offer to pay record labels a dollar for every Zune sold shows how misguided Microsoft is. They&#8217;d rather make a player that screws customers and makes the RIAA happy than provide a decent player that when bought will provide a good experience.</p>
<p>As for DRM I don&#8217;t like it and oppose it! I oppose DRM in Sony BMG&#8217;s root-kit infected CDs &#8212; remember the fiasco a few years back over this and the settlement reached in 2005? I oppose DRM in iTunes! I oppose DRM in Sony&#8217;s Blu Ray which is why I refuse to buy a PS3. I refuse DRM from Microsoft so refuse to upgrade to Windows Vista and refuse to buy an XBox or XBox 360 and allow Microsoft to grow its monopoly further.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Katz</title>
		<link>http://www.rimarkable.com/should-microsoft-come-out-with-zune-marketplace-for-windows-mobile/comment-page-1#comment-31644</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry Katz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2006 10:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will one be able to port some Mobile 5.0 apps to Zune?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will one be able to port some Mobile 5.0 apps to Zune?</p>
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		<title>By: Robb Dunewood</title>
		<link>http://www.rimarkable.com/should-microsoft-come-out-with-zune-marketplace-for-windows-mobile/comment-page-1#comment-31152</link>
		<dc:creator>Robb Dunewood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since the Zune was officially launched today, I figured that I would sticky this post back to the top to see if anyone else has any comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since the Zune was officially launched today, I figured that I would sticky this post back to the top to see if anyone else has any comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Robb Dunewood</title>
		<link>http://www.rimarkable.com/should-microsoft-come-out-with-zune-marketplace-for-windows-mobile/comment-page-1#comment-29141</link>
		<dc:creator>Robb Dunewood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amit, 

I think that eventually we will see something like this available for the BlackBerry.  In my opinion, all smart phones will and higher end mobile phones will offer such services before it is all said and done.  Media rich mobile devices, eventually, will be the next big thing, if the aren&#039;t already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amit, </p>
<p>I think that eventually we will see something like this available for the BlackBerry.  In my opinion, all smart phones will and higher end mobile phones will offer such services before it is all said and done.  Media rich mobile devices, eventually, will be the next big thing, if the aren&#8217;t already.</p>
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		<title>By: Amit</title>
		<link>http://www.rimarkable.com/should-microsoft-come-out-with-zune-marketplace-for-windows-mobile/comment-page-1#comment-29116</link>
		<dc:creator>Amit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 15:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone think that this type of service could be added to the BlackBerry?  No DRM did make a good point about how crappy Windows Mobile is.  I think that I would pay an extra 10 dollars on top of my phone bill if I could download all the content to it that I want.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone think that this type of service could be added to the BlackBerry?  No DRM did make a good point about how crappy Windows Mobile is.  I think that I would pay an extra 10 dollars on top of my phone bill if I could download all the content to it that I want.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
		<link>http://www.rimarkable.com/should-microsoft-come-out-with-zune-marketplace-for-windows-mobile/comment-page-1#comment-29114</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 15:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two more words for you.  Satellite Radio.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two more words for you.  Satellite Radio.</p>
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		<title>By: Yes DRM</title>
		<link>http://www.rimarkable.com/should-microsoft-come-out-with-zune-marketplace-for-windows-mobile/comment-page-1#comment-29112</link>
		<dc:creator>Yes DRM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 15:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two words for you.  Cable TV.

Not to turn this into a digital rights management debate, however, if you don&#039;t see the beuaty of subscription based media service, like cable tv, don&#039;t subscribe.  You can always go buy  a CD or DVD if you want to have it forever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two words for you.  Cable TV.</p>
<p>Not to turn this into a digital rights management debate, however, if you don&#8217;t see the beuaty of subscription based media service, like cable tv, don&#8217;t subscribe.  You can always go buy  a CD or DVD if you want to have it forever.</p>
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		<title>By: No DRM</title>
		<link>http://www.rimarkable.com/should-microsoft-come-out-with-zune-marketplace-for-windows-mobile/comment-page-1#comment-29095</link>
		<dc:creator>No DRM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 14:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just don&#039;t think that enough people would be willing to spend money on a subscription that wouldn&#039;t allow them to cancel and still listen to music they&#039;ve already invested in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just don&#8217;t think that enough people would be willing to spend money on a subscription that wouldn&#8217;t allow them to cancel and still listen to music they&#8217;ve already invested in.</p>
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		<title>By: Robb Dunewood</title>
		<link>http://www.rimarkable.com/should-microsoft-come-out-with-zune-marketplace-for-windows-mobile/comment-page-1#comment-29077</link>
		<dc:creator>Robb Dunewood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2006 12:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not suggesting multiple marketplaces, but, a single marketplace that will be attractive to a larger segment of the market than Zune owners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not suggesting multiple marketplaces, but, a single marketplace that will be attractive to a larger segment of the market than Zune owners.</p>
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