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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.rimarkable.com/rim-what-the#comment-109602</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 00:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>US government dependent on a Canadian company for mission critical communications? How sad. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>US government dependent on a Canadian company for mission critical communications? How sad. <img src='http://www.rimarkable.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Robb Dunewood</title>
		<link>http://www.rimarkable.com/rim-what-the#comment-109574</link>
		<dc:creator>Robb Dunewood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 05:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wednesday was more of an interruption than an outage and it only affected BIS users.  Trust me when I tell you, however, that government messaging administrators were quite upset last Monday during that major outage.  I know that it seems like just a minor annoyance when you can't check email for a few hours but at the end of the day, millions of hours of productivity were lost when BlackBerry users couldn't do what they normally do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wednesday was more of an interruption than an outage and it only affected BIS users.  Trust me when I tell you, however, that government messaging administrators were quite upset last Monday during that major outage.  I know that it seems like just a minor annoyance when you can&#8217;t check email for a few hours but at the end of the day, millions of hours of productivity were lost when BlackBerry users couldn&#8217;t do what they normally do.</p>
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		<title>By: Phreqd</title>
		<link>http://www.rimarkable.com/rim-what-the#comment-109573</link>
		<dc:creator>Phreqd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 03:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For everyone that's got their knickers in a twist over this, please move on to another platform.  Obviously the 'berry isn't for you because it's not perfect.  I don't hear the Government complaining or switching to another device. It didn't even make the papers here in the D.C. area and this is where the Feds have the most employees with Blackberrys.  Get a life and live without emails for a few hours.  Or check your computer if it's so damned important.  If your whole email-life is tied up in a smartphone, you've got problems putting all your eggs in one basket.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For everyone that&#8217;s got their knickers in a twist over this, please move on to another platform.  Obviously the &#8216;berry isn&#8217;t for you because it&#8217;s not perfect.  I don&#8217;t hear the Government complaining or switching to another device. It didn&#8217;t even make the papers here in the D.C. area and this is where the Feds have the most employees with Blackberrys.  Get a life and live without emails for a few hours.  Or check your computer if it&#8217;s so damned important.  If your whole email-life is tied up in a smartphone, you&#8217;ve got problems putting all your eggs in one basket.</p>
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		<title>By: hellno</title>
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		<dc:creator>hellno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 00:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm not so sure it's up to any of us to try and smooth over a outage, making excuses why RIM's system failures are ok.  IF Balsillie was being truthful back 5/07 wouldn't the system redundancy work to the network be at least well on it's way, if not complete?  (We know the "will never happen again" part didn't quite live up to being true)  If Balsillie claims the RIM Blackberry system is "imperative to global and public safety" and "Its part of a broad, broad system of capability. Its shifting to mission critical in every sense of the word," who are we to disagree with him?

http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Mobile-and-Wireless/Balsillie-BlackBerry-Shutdown-Will-Never-Happen-Again/

Balsillie: BlackBerry Shutdown Will Never Happen Again
By Wayne Rash
2007-05-11 

Research in Motion co-CEO Jim Balsillie said the BlackBerry shutdown last month was caused by a process error and the problem has been "unambiguously solved."
ORLANDO, Fla.—In a rare one-on-one interview with eWEEK, Research in Motion co-CEO Jim Balsillie said that the event that shut down e-mail for BlackBerrys in the United States for hours last month was due to "a process thing," and that steps had been taken to ensure that it could never happen again.

Balsillie said that the improbable combination of events, which included the failure of a minor software upgrade to a caching subsystem, the failure of the failover system and the subsequent overloading of a second system has been fixed.

"It was a process error that we had thats been fixed. It shouldnt have happened, and it wont happen again," Balsillie said. "It wasnt a corruption of any form of the infrastructure, and thats very important."

"Were clearly putting a lot more fault tolerance into the system, a lot more capacity. Were having domain failover architectures; were having business continuity solutions experts, so from that component piece of the infrastructure, thats not going to happen again."

Explaining that the problem that caused the blackout was totally avoidable, Balsillie said that the company is broadening, strengthening and "fault tolerating" the system. "Its a global and public safety imperative," he said, adding that there is no constraint on budget or resources for this work.

Balsillie did note, however, that its the responsibility of an enterprise to make sure they have continuity plans for times when important communications paths, including the BlackBerry e-mail, are out of order. He pointed out that RIM was working with customers immediately upon learning of the blackout.

"We had literally hundreds of our top customers on open bridges with ongoing collaboration and communications. So those that were affected had ongoing communications," he said about RIMs support efforts.

Balsillie said that the critical public safety portions of RIMs customer base were brought back on line immediately. "Then the consumer portion was brought back, also quickly, but subsequently," he said.

The question of a failover data center had been discussed after the blackout, especially by government managers who were concerned about losing a vital communications link. Balsillie said that now there is a failover center, but he will not disclose its location.

He said that the same process problem that caused the blackout also delayed the failover, but he said that RIM was still able to get critical users back on line almost immediately. "There is another hub going in the U.S. across the fault line," Balsillie added.

"There are also architecture failovers and dual homing plans for key secret service, government and security forces," Balsillie said. "We can view this as a mistake or we can view it as an inoculation. Its unambiguously solved."

Click here for more on what caused last months BlackBerry failure.

Balsillie noted that the U.S. government is RIMs biggest customer, which is one reason hes taking the issue of the blackout so seriously. He said that BlackBerry devices are used across the whole range of government organizations from intelligence agencies to the military to law enforcement.

"Its part of a broad, broad system of capability. Its shifting to mission critical in every sense of the word," he said.

On other topics, Balsillie said that he thinks that telephony integration is the "coolest" thing hes seen at the RIM symposium.

"It was considered in many respects unsolvable, but its so obvious and so powerful," he said, "its not unlike when we did e-mail. People said why would I want e-mail on my belt, but it changed everything. Once the telephony is synchronized, it totally changes the collaboration world and once thats interrelated with your other workflow and messaging, it changes everything."

Balsillie also hailed the popularity of navigation for the BlackBerry, noting that when people are mobile, knowing where they are can be very important. "After messaging and talking, its the most horizontal application. By definition, mobile people have location needs," he said.

I also love this part.... Someone get Lowell McAdam on the horn and let him know "Balsillie also hailed the popularity of navigation for the BlackBerry, noting that when people are mobile, knowing where they are can be very important. "After messaging and talking, its the most horizontal application. By definition, mobile people have location needs," he said."  Neither RIM nor it's customers think crippling of our blackberry's built in autonomous GPS is a smart idea.  Even with the RIM network in failure mode we should still have the ability to know where we our with our built in autonomous GPS :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not so sure it&#8217;s up to any of us to try and smooth over a outage, making excuses why RIM&#8217;s system failures are ok.  IF Balsillie was being truthful back 5/07 wouldn&#8217;t the system redundancy work to the network be at least well on it&#8217;s way, if not complete?  (We know the &#8220;will never happen again&#8221; part didn&#8217;t quite live up to being true)  If Balsillie claims the RIM Blackberry system is &#8220;imperative to global and public safety&#8221; and &#8220;Its part of a broad, broad system of capability. Its shifting to mission critical in every sense of the word,&#8221; who are we to disagree with him?</p>
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<p>Balsillie: BlackBerry Shutdown Will Never Happen Again<br />
By Wayne Rash<br />
2007-05-11 </p>
<p>Research in Motion co-CEO Jim Balsillie said the BlackBerry shutdown last month was caused by a process error and the problem has been &#8220;unambiguously solved.&#8221;<br />
ORLANDO, Fla.—In a rare one-on-one interview with eWEEK, Research in Motion co-CEO Jim Balsillie said that the event that shut down e-mail for BlackBerrys in the United States for hours last month was due to &#8220;a process thing,&#8221; and that steps had been taken to ensure that it could never happen again.</p>
<p>Balsillie said that the improbable combination of events, which included the failure of a minor software upgrade to a caching subsystem, the failure of the failover system and the subsequent overloading of a second system has been fixed.</p>
<p>&#8220;It was a process error that we had thats been fixed. It shouldnt have happened, and it wont happen again,&#8221; Balsillie said. &#8220;It wasnt a corruption of any form of the infrastructure, and thats very important.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Were clearly putting a lot more fault tolerance into the system, a lot more capacity. Were having domain failover architectures; were having business continuity solutions experts, so from that component piece of the infrastructure, thats not going to happen again.&#8221;</p>
<p>Explaining that the problem that caused the blackout was totally avoidable, Balsillie said that the company is broadening, strengthening and &#8220;fault tolerating&#8221; the system. &#8220;Its a global and public safety imperative,&#8221; he said, adding that there is no constraint on budget or resources for this work.</p>
<p>Balsillie did note, however, that its the responsibility of an enterprise to make sure they have continuity plans for times when important communications paths, including the BlackBerry e-mail, are out of order. He pointed out that RIM was working with customers immediately upon learning of the blackout.</p>
<p>&#8220;We had literally hundreds of our top customers on open bridges with ongoing collaboration and communications. So those that were affected had ongoing communications,&#8221; he said about RIMs support efforts.</p>
<p>Balsillie said that the critical public safety portions of RIMs customer base were brought back on line immediately. &#8220;Then the consumer portion was brought back, also quickly, but subsequently,&#8221; he said.</p>
<p>The question of a failover data center had been discussed after the blackout, especially by government managers who were concerned about losing a vital communications link. Balsillie said that now there is a failover center, but he will not disclose its location.</p>
<p>He said that the same process problem that caused the blackout also delayed the failover, but he said that RIM was still able to get critical users back on line almost immediately. &#8220;There is another hub going in the U.S. across the fault line,&#8221; Balsillie added.</p>
<p>&#8220;There are also architecture failovers and dual homing plans for key secret service, government and security forces,&#8221; Balsillie said. &#8220;We can view this as a mistake or we can view it as an inoculation. Its unambiguously solved.&#8221;</p>
<p>Click here for more on what caused last months BlackBerry failure.</p>
<p>Balsillie noted that the U.S. government is RIMs biggest customer, which is one reason hes taking the issue of the blackout so seriously. He said that BlackBerry devices are used across the whole range of government organizations from intelligence agencies to the military to law enforcement.</p>
<p>&#8220;Its part of a broad, broad system of capability. Its shifting to mission critical in every sense of the word,&#8221; he said.</p>
<p>On other topics, Balsillie said that he thinks that telephony integration is the &#8220;coolest&#8221; thing hes seen at the RIM symposium.</p>
<p>&#8220;It was considered in many respects unsolvable, but its so obvious and so powerful,&#8221; he said, &#8220;its not unlike when we did e-mail. People said why would I want e-mail on my belt, but it changed everything. Once the telephony is synchronized, it totally changes the collaboration world and once thats interrelated with your other workflow and messaging, it changes everything.&#8221;</p>
<p>Balsillie also hailed the popularity of navigation for the BlackBerry, noting that when people are mobile, knowing where they are can be very important. &#8220;After messaging and talking, its the most horizontal application. By definition, mobile people have location needs,&#8221; he said.</p>
<p>I also love this part&#8230;. Someone get Lowell McAdam on the horn and let him know &#8220;Balsillie also hailed the popularity of navigation for the BlackBerry, noting that when people are mobile, knowing where they are can be very important. &#8220;After messaging and talking, its the most horizontal application. By definition, mobile people have location needs,&#8221; he said.&#8221;  Neither RIM nor it&#8217;s customers think crippling of our blackberry&#8217;s built in autonomous GPS is a smart idea.  Even with the RIM network in failure mode we should still have the ability to know where we our with our built in autonomous GPS <img src='http://www.rimarkable.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: bluehorseshoe</title>
		<link>http://www.rimarkable.com/rim-what-the#comment-109561</link>
		<dc:creator>bluehorseshoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The government has satellites falling out of the sky, devices that guide missiles and miss targets, I think they can live with a couple of hours of downtime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The government has satellites falling out of the sky, devices that guide missiles and miss targets, I think they can live with a couple of hours of downtime.</p>
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		<title>By: hellno</title>
		<link>http://www.rimarkable.com/rim-what-the#comment-109560</link>
		<dc:creator>hellno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't think it's too crazy.  Again the US Government is RIM's biggest customer.  Think of all the security, first responders....  RIM is at least perceived at mission critical with mutiple system failures, and some knowledge of RIM's system, the truth is RIM's systems is hardy mission critical.  It's easy for some to kickback in the easy chair and write these outages off as "big deal", "read a book", "get a life", "relax", "get over it", but big picture it's both naive and short sighted, it's sad to think (or a feather in the hat of technology) but at least some could be put in danger if their perceived mission critical Blackberry fails to keep them with timely data.  Especially unacceptable about RIM's situation is not only have they known about their networks problematic design for years now, and have not done anything to keep the problems from happening, but senior members of the RIM team have told the press tall tales saying "outages won't happen again" to money is not a problem and they will do what ever they need to do to make sure there is layers of redundancy to the network.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s too crazy.  Again the US Government is RIM&#8217;s biggest customer.  Think of all the security, first responders&#8230;.  RIM is at least perceived at mission critical with mutiple system failures, and some knowledge of RIM&#8217;s system, the truth is RIM&#8217;s systems is hardy mission critical.  It&#8217;s easy for some to kickback in the easy chair and write these outages off as &#8220;big deal&#8221;, &#8220;read a book&#8221;, &#8220;get a life&#8221;, &#8220;relax&#8221;, &#8220;get over it&#8221;, but big picture it&#8217;s both naive and short sighted, it&#8217;s sad to think (or a feather in the hat of technology) but at least some could be put in danger if their perceived mission critical Blackberry fails to keep them with timely data.  Especially unacceptable about RIM&#8217;s situation is not only have they known about their networks problematic design for years now, and have not done anything to keep the problems from happening, but senior members of the RIM team have told the press tall tales saying &#8220;outages won&#8217;t happen again&#8221; to money is not a problem and they will do what ever they need to do to make sure there is layers of redundancy to the network.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.rimarkable.com/rim-what-the#comment-109546</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 15:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly jonabyte. Sometimes our cars break down, computers reboot, drives crash, nothing is 100% except death &#38; taxes. Use the phone to call or jump on a PC to check your email. Crazy people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly jonabyte. Sometimes our cars break down, computers reboot, drives crash, nothing is 100% except death &amp; taxes. Use the phone to call or jump on a PC to check your email. Crazy people.</p>
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		<title>By: jonabyte</title>
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		<dc:creator>jonabyte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 15:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had to respond to some of these comments regarding a noc. It is not another noc that is needed, but a redundant data centre to switch on when the other one is down. The noc monitors the data centre.

Also, lets put this in perspective, if bb's continue to go down once a month, mostly in the middle of the night then I will live with it.
My power goes out almost once a month due to weather, but I am not going to cancel it because I need it, just like I need my bb.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had to respond to some of these comments regarding a noc. It is not another noc that is needed, but a redundant data centre to switch on when the other one is down. The noc monitors the data centre.</p>
<p>Also, lets put this in perspective, if bb&#8217;s continue to go down once a month, mostly in the middle of the night then I will live with it.<br />
My power goes out almost once a month due to weather, but I am not going to cancel it because I need it, just like I need my bb.</p>
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		<title>By: crazylegs</title>
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		<dc:creator>crazylegs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ hellno - ok, didn't mean to be hostel, sorry, I was just really frustrated by the yesterday's outage.  feeling better today since RIM upped their subscriber forecast and the stock is up over 10 points in the pre-market.  that's one way to sweep outages under the rug!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ hellno - ok, didn&#8217;t mean to be hostel, sorry, I was just really frustrated by the yesterday&#8217;s outage.  feeling better today since RIM upped their subscriber forecast and the stock is up over 10 points in the pre-market.  that&#8217;s one way to sweep outages under the rug!</p>
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		<title>By: AF</title>
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		<dc:creator>AF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right on Jon!</description>
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