Comments on: My BlackBerry Ran Out Of Memory Again… http://www.rimarkable.com/my-blackberry-ran-out-of-memory-again The Official, Unofficial BlackBerry Weblog Sat, 22 Nov 2008 07:16:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Torrieny http://www.rimarkable.com/my-blackberry-ran-out-of-memory-again#comment-116595 Torrieny Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:33:38 +0000 http://www.rimarkable.com/my-blackberry-ran-out-of-memory-again#comment-116595 Hey there Man, I had a pearl. I complained to my carrier about the memory, etc., and they said it is a known issue that will hopefully be corrected with these new BBs coming out. Until then, they let me switch to the Curve. I have to say, since I switched to the curve I haven't had any of those problems I had with memory loss, etc., when I had the pearl. I am happy with the curve, and I'm back to loving my BB. Although, they have a long way to go (in my book) if they want to keep up with my palm zire!! If that had a phone in it, I would never have switched to BB. If they will let you switch to the curve, try it. It's worth it. Check it out. Good luck! Hey there Man,
I had a pearl. I complained to my carrier about the memory, etc., and they said it is a known issue that will hopefully be corrected with these new BBs coming out. Until then, they let me switch to the Curve. I have to say, since I switched to the curve I haven’t had any of those problems I had with memory loss, etc., when I had the pearl. I am happy with the curve, and I’m back to loving my BB. Although, they have a long way to go (in my book) if they want to keep up with my palm zire!! If that had a phone in it, I would never have switched to BB. If they will let you switch to the curve, try it. It’s worth it. Check it out. Good luck!

]]> By: Man http://www.rimarkable.com/my-blackberry-ran-out-of-memory-again#comment-116431 Man Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:57:58 +0000 http://www.rimarkable.com/my-blackberry-ran-out-of-memory-again#comment-116431 I just got a blackberry pearl (8120) because everybody said they loved it. Well, I too get the truncated emails, and trying to view a pdf is a joke! The Blackberry server sends you a fuzzy, watered down version. Sure, you can zoom in and enhance it (read: you wait for it to download more data - then it gets clearer), but then you can't scroll around. It only enhances that portion of your screen you zoomed into. Then you have to zoom out, scroll, zoom in, enhance, etc. etc. I have a multi GB card in my BB. Just download the full pdf please! Stingy corporate greed! This is a joke for businesspeople! I won't be buying another Blackberry. I just got a blackberry pearl (8120) because everybody said they loved it. Well, I too get the truncated emails, and trying to view a pdf is a joke! The Blackberry server sends you a fuzzy, watered down version. Sure, you can zoom in and enhance it (read: you wait for it to download more data - then it gets clearer), but then you can’t scroll around. It only enhances that portion of your screen you zoomed into. Then you have to zoom out, scroll, zoom in, enhance, etc. etc. I have a multi GB card in my BB. Just download the full pdf please! Stingy corporate greed! This is a joke for businesspeople! I won’t be buying another Blackberry.

]]> By: Torrieny http://www.rimarkable.com/my-blackberry-ran-out-of-memory-again#comment-114528 Torrieny Sat, 07 Jun 2008 00:46:42 +0000 http://www.rimarkable.com/my-blackberry-ran-out-of-memory-again#comment-114528 I have the same exact problem! Now that they are coming out with a new BB - will it have more ram? I have seen the basic specs on it, but it says nothing about the ram? Anyone know? I'm ready to switch back to my Palm just for this reason. Believe me, that's not a happy decision on my part! I love my BB!!! I have the same exact problem!
Now that they are coming out with a new BB - will it have more ram? I have seen the basic specs on it, but it says nothing about the ram? Anyone know? I’m ready to switch back to my Palm just for this reason. Believe me, that’s not a happy decision on my part! I love my BB!!!

]]> By: Eric http://www.rimarkable.com/my-blackberry-ran-out-of-memory-again#comment-111962 Eric Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:59:02 +0000 http://www.rimarkable.com/my-blackberry-ran-out-of-memory-again#comment-111962 Hey Amazed (#11), the max onboard RAM for an Apple IIe was 64K, not 64MB. Not try! :) You could expand it all the way to 128K though! haha. Eric Hey Amazed (#11), the max onboard RAM for an Apple IIe was 64K, not 64MB. Not try! :)

You could expand it all the way to 128K though! haha.

Eric

]]> By: Ari Wiel http://www.rimarkable.com/my-blackberry-ran-out-of-memory-again#comment-111936 Ari Wiel Wed, 09 Apr 2008 20:47:49 +0000 http://www.rimarkable.com/my-blackberry-ran-out-of-memory-again#comment-111936 I just picked up on this new application over on BerryReview that might help you with your memory issues. http://www.berryreview.com/2008/04/09/can-this-be-true-installing-applications-to-your-sd-card/ I just picked up on this new application over on BerryReview that might help you with your memory issues.

http://www.berryreview.com/2008/04/09/can-this-be-true-installing-applications-to-your-sd-card/

]]> By: matthew http://www.rimarkable.com/my-blackberry-ran-out-of-memory-again#comment-111856 matthew Mon, 07 Apr 2008 00:18:01 +0000 http://www.rimarkable.com/my-blackberry-ran-out-of-memory-again#comment-111856 The president of my company has 2411 contacts (as of Friday), corporate email for 2 companies, and he has room on his 8820. I can see both arguments (who knows that many people(believe me, he knows them and calls most of them often)) and the "how can you not have room" arguement. The president of my company has 2411 contacts (as of Friday), corporate email for 2 companies, and he has room on his 8820. I can see both arguments (who knows that many people(believe me, he knows them and calls most of them often)) and the “how can you not have room” arguement.

]]> By: Roger Prokic http://www.rimarkable.com/my-blackberry-ran-out-of-memory-again#comment-111852 Roger Prokic Sun, 06 Apr 2008 18:01:50 +0000 http://www.rimarkable.com/my-blackberry-ran-out-of-memory-again#comment-111852 The blackberry needs to be able to store third party apps (with data) on the memory cards, as well as giving users the ability to backup their PIM data to the memory card. This is something that the palm does very well, and I miss it terribly. It should not be that hard for a person to write this software. But my guess is that RIM will need to support it in an OS upgrade. The blackberry needs to be able to store third party apps (with data) on the memory cards, as well as giving users the ability to backup their PIM data to the memory card. This is something that the palm does very well, and I miss it terribly. It should not be that hard for a person to write this software. But my guess is that RIM will need to support it in an OS upgrade.

]]> By: New BB User http://www.rimarkable.com/my-blackberry-ran-out-of-memory-again#comment-111833 New BB User Sun, 06 Apr 2008 07:26:01 +0000 http://www.rimarkable.com/my-blackberry-ran-out-of-memory-again#comment-111833 I also think BB should allow to run any apps from memory card as well. The SM card should be easy to access from external and act like internal memory. Piece of crap design. If security is an issue, encrypt it just like the internal memory. Nothing is impossible. No excuse. I also think BB should allow to run any apps from memory card as well. The SM card should be easy to access from external and act like internal memory. Piece of crap design. If security is an issue, encrypt it just like the internal memory. Nothing is impossible. No excuse.

]]> By: Eshwar S http://www.rimarkable.com/my-blackberry-ran-out-of-memory-again#comment-111822 Eshwar S Sat, 05 Apr 2008 23:05:25 +0000 http://www.rimarkable.com/my-blackberry-ran-out-of-memory-again#comment-111822 @Amazed I have to disagree. You are wrong completely on the technical aspect of things. Code execution is done using SDRAM. Storage of apps and files are done on on-board flash/SD card. NAND flash while faster than hard drive is too slow for code execution (primarily because of larger write times). So code execution is done on the SDRAM. External SD card memory basically supplements on-board flash. 512 Mb should be more than enough for storing applications for blackberry. Each generation of blackberry has been adding more memory/processor speed/screen resolutions. Its just that we are probably towards the end of a particular generation and we are hitting limits and obviously the next release will improve upon these things. RIM is trying to offer backwards portability of many of the newer features unlike Apple ever does. So obviously you might have performance hits in some of these features. @Amazed

I have to disagree. You are wrong completely on the technical aspect of things. Code execution is done using SDRAM. Storage of apps and files are done on on-board flash/SD card. NAND flash while faster than hard drive is too slow for code execution (primarily because of larger write times). So code execution is done on the SDRAM. External SD card memory basically supplements on-board flash. 512 Mb should be more than enough for storing applications for blackberry. Each generation of blackberry has been adding more memory/processor speed/screen resolutions. Its just that we are probably towards the end of a particular generation and we are hitting limits and obviously the next release will improve upon these things. RIM is trying to offer backwards portability of many of the newer features unlike Apple ever does. So obviously you might have performance hits in some of these features.

]]> By: Amazed http://www.rimarkable.com/my-blackberry-ran-out-of-memory-again#comment-111820 Amazed Sat, 05 Apr 2008 22:19:22 +0000 http://www.rimarkable.com/my-blackberry-ran-out-of-memory-again#comment-111820 Another problem with the BB is that memory is used both for code execution and file storage. One software company cripples their software for the BB because of the lack of memory. Their software runs better on other phones and PDAs. They have to reduce the file sizes and feature sets of their software because their software will overload the BB's memory. The other problem is the add-on memory cards. Memory cards are similar to adding a hard drive to a computer. They are not RAM used by the processor. So you can add 2 GB to a BB and none of that 2 GB can be used by the processor for code. 512 MB is too small for applications. Apple has the right idea. So why does RIM do this? Obviously, they have smart people working at RIM who understand this. Just my opinion, if they add just enough memory to run their softare, they can keep their customers buying more and more BBs. Also since many BBs are purchased as part of cellular service, it keeps customers renewing their contracts for newer BBs. In marketing, this is called planned obsolescence. It wastes the customer's time and resources by giving them less than what technology is capable of producing. Inside of producing the best phone on the market. They produce BBs with just enough features to get the customer to buy, but not enough features to preclude a customer upgrade in the future. Another problem with the BB is that memory is used both for code execution and file storage. One software company cripples their software for the BB because of the lack of memory. Their software runs better on other phones and PDAs. They have to reduce the file sizes and feature sets of their software because their software will overload the BB’s memory.

The other problem is the add-on memory cards. Memory cards are similar to adding a hard drive to a computer. They are not RAM used by the processor. So you can add 2 GB to a BB and none of that 2 GB can be used by the processor for code.

512 MB is too small for applications. Apple has the right idea.

So why does RIM do this? Obviously, they have smart people working at RIM who understand this. Just my opinion, if they add just enough memory to run their softare, they can keep their customers buying more and more BBs. Also since many BBs are purchased as part of cellular service, it keeps customers renewing their contracts for newer BBs.

In marketing, this is called planned obsolescence.

It wastes the customer’s time and resources by giving them less than what technology is capable of producing. Inside of producing the best phone on the market. They produce BBs with just enough features to get the customer to buy, but not enough features to preclude a customer upgrade in the future.

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