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	<title>Comments on: Most People Who Have Handled The BlackBerry Thunder Think It&#8217;s A Joke!</title>
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		<title>By: Bernhard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bernhard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 11:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it just me or is the BlackBerry thunder really, really ugly? Reminds me of the first versions of the HTC Phones.

I think RIM should look for designers you are able to create a masterpiece, not try to imitate other phones (as is the Bold compared to the iPhone)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it just me or is the BlackBerry thunder really, really ugly? Reminds me of the first versions of the HTC Phones.</p>
<p>I think RIM should look for designers you are able to create a masterpiece, not try to imitate other phones (as is the Bold compared to the iPhone)</p>
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		<title>By: REV</title>
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		<dc:creator>REV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 02:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Thought

&lt;i&gt;&quot;Apple and their supporters do not need in any way to spread negative rumors about the Thunder in order to sell tons of iPhones.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

I agree.  They don&#039;t need to.

But if there&#039;s anything I&#039;ve learned from reading BGR, Engadget and RIMarkable, it&#039;s that some people take their mobile phones waaaaaay too seriously.  This dick-swinging rivalry among web sites and message board posters would be hilarious if it wasn&#039;t so sad.

I don&#039;t think Apple had anything to do with anything.  But I can totally see some sorry-ass Apple-supporting freak trying to use misinformation or selective facts to sway minds and influence people against a carrier or manufacturer the guy hates for whatever reason.

As for the &quot;tiny&quot; effect BGR has on the masses - I dunno.  Do you notice how many web sites - even legitimate mass media news sites - pick up on &quot;groundbreaking&quot; BGR headlines?  I remember when he broke the news on the Thunder, and his blog entry was parroted all over the place.  Major newspapers, cable TV news channels, the whole schmear.

Point is, even if the media never refers to him by name, when he releases &quot;big deal&quot; news, it gets around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Thought</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Apple and their supporters do not need in any way to spread negative rumors about the Thunder in order to sell tons of iPhones.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>I agree.  They don&#8217;t need to.</p>
<p>But if there&#8217;s anything I&#8217;ve learned from reading BGR, Engadget and RIMarkable, it&#8217;s that some people take their mobile phones waaaaaay too seriously.  This dick-swinging rivalry among web sites and message board posters would be hilarious if it wasn&#8217;t so sad.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think Apple had anything to do with anything.  But I can totally see some sorry-ass Apple-supporting freak trying to use misinformation or selective facts to sway minds and influence people against a carrier or manufacturer the guy hates for whatever reason.</p>
<p>As for the &#8220;tiny&#8221; effect BGR has on the masses &#8211; I dunno.  Do you notice how many web sites &#8211; even legitimate mass media news sites &#8211; pick up on &#8220;groundbreaking&#8221; BGR headlines?  I remember when he broke the news on the Thunder, and his blog entry was parroted all over the place.  Major newspapers, cable TV news channels, the whole schmear.</p>
<p>Point is, even if the media never refers to him by name, when he releases &#8220;big deal&#8221; news, it gets around.</p>
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		<title>By: Thought</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thought</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 02:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think some need to chill...regardless of what the reality is, there is no conspiracy to tarnish RIM&#039;s reputation.  

The numbers of people who read these rumors on the blogs and who would actually allow them to impact their purchases is tiny.  

Apple and their supporters do not need in any way to spread negative rumors about the Thunder in order to sell tons of iPhones.  

At this point, all we have are rumors...so we probably will get a mixed bag of messages, sometimes contradictory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think some need to chill&#8230;regardless of what the reality is, there is no conspiracy to tarnish RIM&#8217;s reputation.  </p>
<p>The numbers of people who read these rumors on the blogs and who would actually allow them to impact their purchases is tiny.  </p>
<p>Apple and their supporters do not need in any way to spread negative rumors about the Thunder in order to sell tons of iPhones.  </p>
<p>At this point, all we have are rumors&#8230;so we probably will get a mixed bag of messages, sometimes contradictory.</p>
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		<title>By: Albert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Albert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 23:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who really knows what&#039;s the truth, when people don&#039;t go on record, and people do anonymous tips, you&#039;re completely basing it on the journalist.  So basically if you believe BG then you believe him and if crackberry is your thing, then you belive them</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who really knows what&#8217;s the truth, when people don&#8217;t go on record, and people do anonymous tips, you&#8217;re completely basing it on the journalist.  So basically if you believe BG then you believe him and if crackberry is your thing, then you belive them</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Rowan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Rowan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 06:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is idiotic.  It&#039;s not a release ready device.  How it performs at any moment in time before release means nothing.  This is a case of too much information about something that doesn&#039;t matter.  Some people need to find something better to do with their time than useless information whoring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is idiotic.  It&#8217;s not a release ready device.  How it performs at any moment in time before release means nothing.  This is a case of too much information about something that doesn&#8217;t matter.  Some people need to find something better to do with their time than useless information whoring.</p>
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		<title>By: REV</title>
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		<dc:creator>REV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 01:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>argonnj

I know you do.  But your post had a trolly vibe.

I agree with you (and Thought) 100% that RIM has its work cut out for it.  And, yes, BGR has a great record.  All the more reason to call &quot;bullshit&quot; when you see it in order to keep him to his high standards, yes?

I want to see both the iPhone and the Thunder do fabulously.  I think there&#039;s plenty of room in the sandbox for both to thrive.  Still, that BGR post - specifically the actual quotes from the ninja - just sounded &quot;off&quot; to me, not entirely genuine.  Almost like the guy really &lt;b&gt;really&lt;/b&gt; wanted to give you a convincing reason not to wait around for a Thunder.  Maybe his report is 100% true, but then toss in the fact that this post came on the heels of that glowing Crackberry review, and both came mere days before July 11th, and I just get the feeling that some folks aren&#039;t being totally forthcoming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>argonnj</p>
<p>I know you do.  But your post had a trolly vibe.</p>
<p>I agree with you (and Thought) 100% that RIM has its work cut out for it.  And, yes, BGR has a great record.  All the more reason to call &#8220;bullshit&#8221; when you see it in order to keep him to his high standards, yes?</p>
<p>I want to see both the iPhone and the Thunder do fabulously.  I think there&#8217;s plenty of room in the sandbox for both to thrive.  Still, that BGR post &#8211; specifically the actual quotes from the ninja &#8211; just sounded &#8220;off&#8221; to me, not entirely genuine.  Almost like the guy really <b>really</b> wanted to give you a convincing reason not to wait around for a Thunder.  Maybe his report is 100% true, but then toss in the fact that this post came on the heels of that glowing Crackberry review, and both came mere days before July 11th, and I just get the feeling that some folks aren&#8217;t being totally forthcoming.</p>
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		<title>By: Thought</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thought</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 00:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would just add that we have not had many instances of positive reports of the Thunder working so well right now; really  we only had the story on crackberry.com.

So we have one positive report, and one less so from BGR.  

We also know that BGR has a great track record.

Logically, it does seem more likely that RIM is still experiencing some issues with a totally new OS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would just add that we have not had many instances of positive reports of the Thunder working so well right now; really  we only had the story on crackberry.com.</p>
<p>So we have one positive report, and one less so from BGR.  </p>
<p>We also know that BGR has a great track record.</p>
<p>Logically, it does seem more likely that RIM is still experiencing some issues with a totally new OS.</p>
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		<title>By: JaggedXJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>JaggedXJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 00:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with the OS comment in the top post.  While my Curve 8320 on Tmo is the best phone I have ever used bar none, it still has many areas that could be improved.  There are well documented cases online of random resets because of simple memory issues.  Why is there no warning equivalent to &quot;low disk space&quot; on a PC OS?  Why is the mem so small to begin with.  I know there are many issues that are hardware limitations, supposedly addressed in the next gen of BBs, but there are a few glaring ways that the OS is flawed.  There are also a number of obvious missing functions that 3rd party app$ have been happy to fill in for.  All this leads me to believe that RIM will need either a crack team (better than now/recently) or more time for a stable device as &quot;wonderful&quot; as the Thunder.  
In short the RIM OS is far from polished.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with the OS comment in the top post.  While my Curve 8320 on Tmo is the best phone I have ever used bar none, it still has many areas that could be improved.  There are well documented cases online of random resets because of simple memory issues.  Why is there no warning equivalent to &#8220;low disk space&#8221; on a PC OS?  Why is the mem so small to begin with.  I know there are many issues that are hardware limitations, supposedly addressed in the next gen of BBs, but there are a few glaring ways that the OS is flawed.  There are also a number of obvious missing functions that 3rd party app$ have been happy to fill in for.  All this leads me to believe that RIM will need either a crack team (better than now/recently) or more time for a stable device as &#8220;wonderful&#8221; as the Thunder.<br />
In short the RIM OS is far from polished.</p>
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		<title>By: argonnj</title>
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		<dc:creator>argonnj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 21:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>REV,
Trolly comments?  I post here a lot.  Anyway, RIM is basically building a whole new UI with the Thunder.  To think they would be able to throw it together so quickly is crazy considering the delays they are having with the Bold or the delay in releasing OS upgrades to existing devices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>REV,<br />
Trolly comments?  I post here a lot.  Anyway, RIM is basically building a whole new UI with the Thunder.  To think they would be able to throw it together so quickly is crazy considering the delays they are having with the Bold or the delay in releasing OS upgrades to existing devices.</p>
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