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	<title>Comments on: Have You Ever Heard Of A &#8220;Jail Broken&#8221; BlackBerry?</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 11:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Asitha</title>
		<link>http://www.rimarkable.com/have-you-ever-heard-of-a-jail-broken-blackberry#comment-116997</link>
		<dc:creator>Asitha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 11:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Urrrm,  Jailbreaking the iPhone took a significant amount of effort from a number of hackers.   Now that it has been done, it is easy to do.  This is not a function of the hackability of the device, just the force of will to do it.  Why in the world would you want to hack a Blackberry?  Most of the jailbreakers are looking to circumvent one of two things - Apple's App Store distribution model or the lock in to one provider for service.  Blackberry doesn't have these issues, so not that many people want to hack into them.   As for using the iPhone in the Enterprise, at the moment it is on a par with all the smart devices in the Enterprise using Exchange Activesync in terms of security.  One of the big four management consultancies, who I used to work for, issued Windows Mobile devices using Activesync.  The security is on a par with the iPhone 3G - if they are willing to do WM, they shouldn't have a problem with iPhone.  Hacking into a WM phone is perfectly straightforward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Urrrm,  Jailbreaking the iPhone took a significant amount of effort from a number of hackers.   Now that it has been done, it is easy to do.  This is not a function of the hackability of the device, just the force of will to do it.  Why in the world would you want to hack a Blackberry?  Most of the jailbreakers are looking to circumvent one of two things - Apple&#8217;s App Store distribution model or the lock in to one provider for service.  Blackberry doesn&#8217;t have these issues, so not that many people want to hack into them.   As for using the iPhone in the Enterprise, at the moment it is on a par with all the smart devices in the Enterprise using Exchange Activesync in terms of security.  One of the big four management consultancies, who I used to work for, issued Windows Mobile devices using Activesync.  The security is on a par with the iPhone 3G - if they are willing to do WM, they shouldn&#8217;t have a problem with iPhone.  Hacking into a WM phone is perfectly straightforward.</p>
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		<title>By: Nedcomm</title>
		<link>http://www.rimarkable.com/have-you-ever-heard-of-a-jail-broken-blackberry#comment-116122</link>
		<dc:creator>Nedcomm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wayne,

Ever heard of "cloud computing?"  The push to store files on the internet and to share multi-licensed software over a network is coming back in vogue.  My guess is that it's not a function of the IT guy wanting to "completely control the whole environment as if it were 1975" and more a matter of the cost savings and security (in the sense that storing data off-site means that a disaster on-site doesn't cripple a business a la 9-11).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wayne,</p>
<p>Ever heard of &#8220;cloud computing?&#8221;  The push to store files on the internet and to share multi-licensed software over a network is coming back in vogue.  My guess is that it&#8217;s not a function of the IT guy wanting to &#8220;completely control the whole environment as if it were 1975&#8243; and more a matter of the cost savings and security (in the sense that storing data off-site means that a disaster on-site doesn&#8217;t cripple a business a la 9-11).</p>
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		<title>By: R9</title>
		<link>http://www.rimarkable.com/have-you-ever-heard-of-a-jail-broken-blackberry#comment-116106</link>
		<dc:creator>R9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 00:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or a guy who installs his own software on to his laptop, that VPN's in to work.  You can do all sorts of stuff with a laptop, yet IT doesn't restrict that from full VPN access in to work.

Security is really only a concern if an employee loses it, then someone finds it and hacks it.  Can they access data they shouldn't before it gets remote wiped by hacking it?  Even so, is that any different than a Blackberry or Windows Mobile?
BB perhaps, but WM it doesn't seem likely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or a guy who installs his own software on to his laptop, that VPN&#8217;s in to work.  You can do all sorts of stuff with a laptop, yet IT doesn&#8217;t restrict that from full VPN access in to work.</p>
<p>Security is really only a concern if an employee loses it, then someone finds it and hacks it.  Can they access data they shouldn&#8217;t before it gets remote wiped by hacking it?  Even so, is that any different than a Blackberry or Windows Mobile?<br />
BB perhaps, but WM it doesn&#8217;t seem likely.</p>
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		<title>By: Albert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Albert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 00:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the ultimate point is that hacking the OS so that it can be doing things it is not supposed to be able to do, cannot be supported.  If you're able to put apps onto the phone that IT deems you shouldn't have on the phone then IT shouldn't have to support why your SAP app stopped working or why your Exchange Activesync stopped working.

Here's the rub though, many end users not all, but many who would jailbreak their phone would still expect IT to fix the problem.  Its like the guy who installs his own custom exhaust on the car and then expects the mechanic to fix the smog on his car without changing anything back to spec.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the ultimate point is that hacking the OS so that it can be doing things it is not supposed to be able to do, cannot be supported.  If you&#8217;re able to put apps onto the phone that IT deems you shouldn&#8217;t have on the phone then IT shouldn&#8217;t have to support why your SAP app stopped working or why your Exchange Activesync stopped working.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the rub though, many end users not all, but many who would jailbreak their phone would still expect IT to fix the problem.  Its like the guy who installs his own custom exhaust on the car and then expects the mechanic to fix the smog on his car without changing anything back to spec.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris B.</title>
		<link>http://www.rimarkable.com/have-you-ever-heard-of-a-jail-broken-blackberry#comment-116100</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, I agree that iPhone is lacking some critical enterprise security things (Perhaps that is &lt;i&gt;your&lt;/i&gt; point). 

But the crux of the matter is that you still need password, user ids, certificates, etc. to access Oracle, PeopleSoft, Notes, etc. And presumably, like a Blackberry, you would need IT to "authorize" your BB/iPhone (and probably sign some security/confidentiality agreement).

And desktops can be hacked, other software loaded, browser/flash/web/quicktime exploits/vulnerabilities, etc. 

For this IT guy to say "Apple knows everyone would be hacking these things..." is just silly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, I agree that iPhone is lacking some critical enterprise security things (Perhaps that is <i>your</i> point). </p>
<p>But the crux of the matter is that you still need password, user ids, certificates, etc. to access Oracle, PeopleSoft, Notes, etc. And presumably, like a Blackberry, you would need IT to &#8220;authorize&#8221; your BB/iPhone (and probably sign some security/confidentiality agreement).</p>
<p>And desktops can be hacked, other software loaded, browser/flash/web/quicktime exploits/vulnerabilities, etc. </p>
<p>For this IT guy to say &#8220;Apple knows everyone would be hacking these things&#8230;&#8221; is just silly.</p>
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		<title>By: Robb Dunewood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robb Dunewood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am just glad so many iPhone folks read my little BlackBerry Blog...  :)

I do have a question for some of you BlackBerry folks out there though...  How many of your BlackBerry Administrators would allow you to continue to connect your device to SAP, Oracle Financials, PeoepleSoft or some other mission critical enterprise application after you've installed firmware that they don't support or even know you may have on your device?

I am guessing about the same number that would just let you join your personal laptop to the corporate domain because you got a "really cool new one", but, I thought that I would ask the question anyway...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am just glad so many iPhone folks read my little BlackBerry Blog&#8230;  <img src='http://www.rimarkable.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I do have a question for some of you BlackBerry folks out there though&#8230;  How many of your BlackBerry Administrators would allow you to continue to connect your device to SAP, Oracle Financials, PeoepleSoft or some other mission critical enterprise application after you&#8217;ve installed firmware that they don&#8217;t support or even know you may have on your device?</p>
<p>I am guessing about the same number that would just let you join your personal laptop to the corporate domain because you got a &#8220;really cool new one&#8221;, but, I thought that I would ask the question anyway&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: R9</title>
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		<dc:creator>R9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right, there's no NEED to jailbreak a blackberry.  It's already jailbroken, rather it's open.  Jailbreaking is just opening the platform.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right, there&#8217;s no NEED to jailbreak a blackberry.  It&#8217;s already jailbroken, rather it&#8217;s open.  Jailbreaking is just opening the platform.</p>
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		<title>By: portorikan</title>
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		<dc:creator>portorikan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think jail breaking and hacking are two different things. The only reason the iphone is so popular for jail breaking is because it's limited to one service provider in the states.

You can get a Blackberry on any service provider so there isn't a demand for a jail broken Blackberry. That, and quite frankly, it's just not as 'sexy'' or sought after device. 

Nobody I know has waited in line for one, nor am I aware of them being sold out for weeks and thousands of people blogging about them or trying to find when the next shipment will arrive.

Maybe you could look at it like the classic Windows vs Mac debate with virus but reversed. More viruses for Windows since it's more popular. People jail break iphones because they are a more popular device.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think jail breaking and hacking are two different things. The only reason the iphone is so popular for jail breaking is because it&#8217;s limited to one service provider in the states.</p>
<p>You can get a Blackberry on any service provider so there isn&#8217;t a demand for a jail broken Blackberry. That, and quite frankly, it&#8217;s just not as &#8217;sexy&#8221; or sought after device. </p>
<p>Nobody I know has waited in line for one, nor am I aware of them being sold out for weeks and thousands of people blogging about them or trying to find when the next shipment will arrive.</p>
<p>Maybe you could look at it like the classic Windows vs Mac debate with virus but reversed. More viruses for Windows since it&#8217;s more popular. People jail break iphones because they are a more popular device.</p>
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		<title>By: R9</title>
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		<dc:creator>R9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How does a jailbroken iPhone pose a security risk?

Hmm, it doesn't.  Even jailbroken and hacked beyond belief, it still can't bypass an email login or brute force attack the login.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How does a jailbroken iPhone pose a security risk?</p>
<p>Hmm, it doesn&#8217;t.  Even jailbroken and hacked beyond belief, it still can&#8217;t bypass an email login or brute force attack the login.</p>
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		<title>By: Cedric Bosch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cedric Bosch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The IT is a hack</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The IT is a hack</p>
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