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		<title>By: Is The BlackBerry 8800 A &#8220;Bit Of A Dud&#8221;? &#124; RIMarkable &#124; The official, unofficial BlackBerry Weblog</title>
		<link>http://www.rimarkable.com/blackberry-8800-initial-thoughts/comment-page-1#comment-48204</link>
		<dc:creator>Is The BlackBerry 8800 A &#8220;Bit Of A Dud&#8221;? &#124; RIMarkable &#124; The official, unofficial BlackBerry Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 13:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I didn&#8217;t particularly care for the BlackBerry 8800. Om Malik wasn&#8217;t that impressed. Numerous other BlackBerry 8800 reviewers have the same sentiment. Could it be that RIM has released their first BlackBerry dud? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I didn&#8217;t particularly care for the BlackBerry 8800. Om Malik wasn&#8217;t that impressed. Numerous other BlackBerry 8800 reviewers have the same sentiment. Could it be that RIM has released their first BlackBerry dud? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Om Malik Not That Big On The BlackBerry 8800 &#124; RIMarkable &#124; The official, unofficial BlackBerry Weblog</title>
		<link>http://www.rimarkable.com/blackberry-8800-initial-thoughts/comment-page-1#comment-47631</link>
		<dc:creator>Om Malik Not That Big On The BlackBerry 8800 &#124; RIMarkable &#124; The official, unofficial BlackBerry Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Mar 2007 22:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] know how Om Malik feels.  I wasn&#8217;t all that impressed with the BlackBerry 8800 either when I took a look at it last [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] know how Om Malik feels.  I wasn&#8217;t all that impressed with the BlackBerry 8800 either when I took a look at it last [...]</p>
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		<title>By: dayjayvw</title>
		<link>http://www.rimarkable.com/blackberry-8800-initial-thoughts/comment-page-1#comment-47219</link>
		<dc:creator>dayjayvw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 11:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Verizon 7130 user, longtime nextel/sprint BB user, I&#039;d never leave the 7130 unless the 8800 had the camera and expandable memory. Not having the gps is lousy, but a bluetooth puk solves that issue. Not really sure what all the hoopla is with the 8800 if it&#039;s only gps. Is there an upgraded full querty pearl in Verizons future or will they continue to let tmobile and cingular be first to market with everything...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Verizon 7130 user, longtime nextel/sprint BB user, I&#8217;d never leave the 7130 unless the 8800 had the camera and expandable memory. Not having the gps is lousy, but a bluetooth puk solves that issue. Not really sure what all the hoopla is with the 8800 if it&#8217;s only gps. Is there an upgraded full querty pearl in Verizons future or will they continue to let tmobile and cingular be first to market with everything&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.rimarkable.com/blackberry-8800-initial-thoughts/comment-page-1#comment-46826</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think referring someone to a Q is necessarily bad advice. I&#039;ve been using a Q since last summer. From a consumer (not business) standpoint, I&#039;d say all around it&#039;s not too shabby.. at least for me. It just depends on what you need it for personally. I&#039;ve found the voice quality to be nothing short of excellent (although this may be more due to being on VZW). I&#039;ve probably had 2 dropped calls in the nine months I&#039;ve been using it, and not one system crash. Yes, the battery life leaves a lot to be desired, which is very annoying. And (again, from a consumer standpoint) if you want push e-mail, you&#039;re more or less sh*t out of luck. I&#039;ve really come to enjoy the camera and video capabilties of the Q, though, despite its limitations. For me, the Pearl isn&#039;t enough to get me to jump ship. A full-QWERTY with Pearl capabilites? Not you&#039;re talking! But even then, I&#039;m spoiled with VZW&#039;s EVDO... so if it&#039;s not on VZW, it would have to be 3G. If RIM was able to get something like this on the market -- bye bye Q.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think referring someone to a Q is necessarily bad advice. I&#8217;ve been using a Q since last summer. From a consumer (not business) standpoint, I&#8217;d say all around it&#8217;s not too shabby.. at least for me. It just depends on what you need it for personally. I&#8217;ve found the voice quality to be nothing short of excellent (although this may be more due to being on VZW). I&#8217;ve probably had 2 dropped calls in the nine months I&#8217;ve been using it, and not one system crash. Yes, the battery life leaves a lot to be desired, which is very annoying. And (again, from a consumer standpoint) if you want push e-mail, you&#8217;re more or less sh*t out of luck. I&#8217;ve really come to enjoy the camera and video capabilties of the Q, though, despite its limitations. For me, the Pearl isn&#8217;t enough to get me to jump ship. A full-QWERTY with Pearl capabilites? Not you&#8217;re talking! But even then, I&#8217;m spoiled with VZW&#8217;s EVDO&#8230; so if it&#8217;s not on VZW, it would have to be 3G. If RIM was able to get something like this on the market &#8212; bye bye Q.</p>
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		<title>By: Robb Dunewood</title>
		<link>http://www.rimarkable.com/blackberry-8800-initial-thoughts/comment-page-1#comment-46785</link>
		<dc:creator>Robb Dunewood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 13:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Believe it or not the BlackBerry Pearl doesn&#039;t win every head to head evaluation with some of these other devices.  I know that it is hard for us BlackBerry Addicts to fathom, but, not all smartphones not named BlackBerry are horrible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Believe it or not the BlackBerry Pearl doesn&#8217;t win every head to head evaluation with some of these other devices.  I know that it is hard for us BlackBerry Addicts to fathom, but, not all smartphones not named BlackBerry are horrible.</p>
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		<title>By: J</title>
		<link>http://www.rimarkable.com/blackberry-8800-initial-thoughts/comment-page-1#comment-46662</link>
		<dc:creator>J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 02:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you&#039;re right on half the story...

the 8800 is NOT a huge upgrade to the 8700...

but suggesting that someone go to a blackjack or Q instead? that&#039;s horrible advice... unless you enjoy swapping batteries, dropping calls, and sitting anxiously waiting for your device to crash... again...

for instance, in cingular&#039;s lineup, the 8700 is the best overall device, hands down... only a few users will find that it doesn&#039;t meet their needs (ie those requiring out of box complete microsoft support)... so, if you don&#039;t want an 8800 that&#039;s fine, but get an 8700...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you&#8217;re right on half the story&#8230;</p>
<p>the 8800 is NOT a huge upgrade to the 8700&#8230;</p>
<p>but suggesting that someone go to a blackjack or Q instead? that&#8217;s horrible advice&#8230; unless you enjoy swapping batteries, dropping calls, and sitting anxiously waiting for your device to crash&#8230; again&#8230;</p>
<p>for instance, in cingular&#8217;s lineup, the 8700 is the best overall device, hands down&#8230; only a few users will find that it doesn&#8217;t meet their needs (ie those requiring out of box complete microsoft support)&#8230; so, if you don&#8217;t want an 8800 that&#8217;s fine, but get an 8700&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://www.rimarkable.com/blackberry-8800-initial-thoughts/comment-page-1#comment-46615</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 01:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ouch, that hurt Mr. Dunewood!  Well, I can&#039;t agree with your thoughts more though (I hope Rim heard that.)  As a Consumer and not a business user, I feel as if the 8800 isn&#039;t as much of an upgrade, as it is a new look.  The blackberry 8800 and the blackberry 8700s question regardinng whether or not to upgrade, reminds me of the problems people were facing when the sidekick 3 was released (let me explain.)  When the sidekick 3 came out, it didn&#039;t have much more going for it to be considered a whole another device, compared to the kick 2 - it had &quot;EDGE&quot; (or what Tmo considered Edge,) bluetooth, expandable memory, a better cam, and a music player.  Yet, that was pretty much it nothing truly ground breaking, and if you really look at a comparison, the only new editions was bluetooth, expand. mem., music player and Edge but that was it!  I hope that this is making sense and people are seeing the comparison here.  If not, maybe reading below might help to clarify.  

    Now with the 8800, it has a new casing, media player, expand. mem. and GPS - that&#039;s it.  No camera, no wifi, nothing that would really make the consumer market jump for joy.  Yet, if you were to compare the sidekick 3 with the blackberry 8800 and which device has had a better &quot;Upgrade&quot; so to speak, it would have to be the sidekick 3!  As rediculous as it might sound to some, remember this is from a consumer&#039;s perspective and NOT a business user&#039;s.  The sidekick 3 had more added features than did the 8800 and for less or of equal value depending on how you look at it.  

    I would have to say the same as Mr. Dunewood, that for the same amount or lesser value, you can get a smart phone with a camera and more glits and glam than what a 8800 would cost and have available to you.  I sure hope that Rim is now going to consider these facts and elements when deciding on a newer model. Perhaps in the future, Rim will implement a long awaited qwerty with a camera and some much deserved wifi.  Until than, I will be perfectly content with my 8700 thank you very much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ouch, that hurt Mr. Dunewood!  Well, I can&#8217;t agree with your thoughts more though (I hope Rim heard that.)  As a Consumer and not a business user, I feel as if the 8800 isn&#8217;t as much of an upgrade, as it is a new look.  The blackberry 8800 and the blackberry 8700s question regardinng whether or not to upgrade, reminds me of the problems people were facing when the sidekick 3 was released (let me explain.)  When the sidekick 3 came out, it didn&#8217;t have much more going for it to be considered a whole another device, compared to the kick 2 &#8211; it had &#8220;EDGE&#8221; (or what Tmo considered Edge,) bluetooth, expandable memory, a better cam, and a music player.  Yet, that was pretty much it nothing truly ground breaking, and if you really look at a comparison, the only new editions was bluetooth, expand. mem., music player and Edge but that was it!  I hope that this is making sense and people are seeing the comparison here.  If not, maybe reading below might help to clarify.  </p>
<p>    Now with the 8800, it has a new casing, media player, expand. mem. and GPS &#8211; that&#8217;s it.  No camera, no wifi, nothing that would really make the consumer market jump for joy.  Yet, if you were to compare the sidekick 3 with the blackberry 8800 and which device has had a better &#8220;Upgrade&#8221; so to speak, it would have to be the sidekick 3!  As rediculous as it might sound to some, remember this is from a consumer&#8217;s perspective and NOT a business user&#8217;s.  The sidekick 3 had more added features than did the 8800 and for less or of equal value depending on how you look at it.  </p>
<p>    I would have to say the same as Mr. Dunewood, that for the same amount or lesser value, you can get a smart phone with a camera and more glits and glam than what a 8800 would cost and have available to you.  I sure hope that Rim is now going to consider these facts and elements when deciding on a newer model. Perhaps in the future, Rim will implement a long awaited qwerty with a camera and some much deserved wifi.  Until than, I will be perfectly content with my 8700 thank you very much.</p>
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