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		<title>By: Robb Dunewood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robb Dunewood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a word...  Absolutely...

There would undoubtedly be BlackBerry users currently on Verizon that would switch over to the iPhone on Verizon, however, I think the biggest problem for RIM would be Verizon subscribers looking at their first smartphone that now have the iPhone on Verizon as an option.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a word&#8230;  Absolutely&#8230;</p>
<p>There would undoubtedly be BlackBerry users currently on Verizon that would switch over to the iPhone on Verizon, however, I think the biggest problem for RIM would be Verizon subscribers looking at their first smartphone that now have the iPhone on Verizon as an option.</p>
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		<title>By: Lester</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CDMA isn&#039;t dying.  It will eventually be replaced by LTE and phased out gradually but it is far from dying.  There are more CDMA users in the U.S. now than there have ever been.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CDMA isn&#8217;t dying.  It will eventually be replaced by LTE and phased out gradually but it is far from dying.  There are more CDMA users in the U.S. now than there have ever been.</p>
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		<title>By: AlucardFair</title>
		<link>http://www.rimarkable.com/att-halts-iphone-sales-in-nyc-area/comment-page-1#comment-127752</link>
		<dc:creator>AlucardFair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ The Rock, I like your info. However, I&#039;m wondering why you think that CDMA is dying? Where as CDMA is &quot;Only Based&quot; in North America, I will say is inaccurate. I have a World Based phone. CDMA in North America and GSM in non-CDMA network areas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ The Rock, I like your info. However, I&#8217;m wondering why you think that CDMA is dying? Where as CDMA is &#8220;Only Based&#8221; in North America, I will say is inaccurate. I have a World Based phone. CDMA in North America and GSM in non-CDMA network areas.</p>
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		<title>By: The Rock</title>
		<link>http://www.rimarkable.com/att-halts-iphone-sales-in-nyc-area/comment-page-1#comment-127749</link>
		<dc:creator>The Rock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Several theories but here are the facts:

&quot;On Monday, the Associated Press reported that the reason AT&amp;T (temporarily) stopped online sales may have been to prevent fraudsters from buying phones, reneging on contracts, and then selling the devices to others.&quot;

&quot;An AT&amp;T spokesperson offered up a third reason by saying &quot;&quot;We periodically modify our promotions and distribution channels.&quot;

&quot;Despite AT&amp;T&#039;s own Web site sales blackout, the iPhone was still available in its own retail stores, Apple Stores, and Apple&#039;s retail Web site.  AT&amp;T isn&#039;t elaborating on the incident, and is sticking by its spokesperson&#039;s statement even after resuming online sales.&quot;

&quot;Because the phones were still available in New York retail stores and from Apple&#039;s website, the ban may have instead been an attempt to curb buyers who renege on the service contracts and resell the phones to customers of other carriers overseas.&quot;

&quot;Sales of the iPhone through AT&amp;T and Apple retail stores in the New York area, as well as via Apple&#039;s Web site, were unaffected.&quot;

&quot;One explanation might be that a sudden surge in orders for iPhones to be delivered to a small number of addresses in the New York area triggered AT&amp;T&#039;s response out of concern that those phones might then be unlocked and shipped overseas to a country where the iPhone isn&#039;t yet offered. In that scenario, AT&amp;T would be losing out on subscription revenue for phones it is selling at a subsidized price ranging from $199 to $299. The move may have been meant as a temporary measure.

Another potential explanation: some type of credit card fraud. According to payment processing firm CyberSource (CYBS), more than 1% of orders placed with merchants in the U.S. and Canada in 2008 later turned out to be fraudulent, and the rate of fraudulent orders was double that for consumer electronics products.&quot;

As The Rock was predicting, Don’t stop “believing” Much ‘ado about nothing.  However one thing continues to be crystal clear, Apple’s iPhone, the state of the art device running on AT&amp;T, the nation’s fastest 3G network matters and is leading the industry.  When&#039;s the last time anyone freaked out when a BB was not available to be sold online in a few zip codes for a few short hours?  The Rock says along with reality and truth consumers need to remember to think and to think big picture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Several theories but here are the facts:</p>
<p>&#8220;On Monday, the Associated Press reported that the reason AT&amp;T (temporarily) stopped online sales may have been to prevent fraudsters from buying phones, reneging on contracts, and then selling the devices to others.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;An AT&amp;T spokesperson offered up a third reason by saying &#8220;&#8221;We periodically modify our promotions and distribution channels.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Despite AT&amp;T&#8217;s own Web site sales blackout, the iPhone was still available in its own retail stores, Apple Stores, and Apple&#8217;s retail Web site.  AT&amp;T isn&#8217;t elaborating on the incident, and is sticking by its spokesperson&#8217;s statement even after resuming online sales.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Because the phones were still available in New York retail stores and from Apple&#8217;s website, the ban may have instead been an attempt to curb buyers who renege on the service contracts and resell the phones to customers of other carriers overseas.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Sales of the iPhone through AT&amp;T and Apple retail stores in the New York area, as well as via Apple&#8217;s Web site, were unaffected.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;One explanation might be that a sudden surge in orders for iPhones to be delivered to a small number of addresses in the New York area triggered AT&amp;T&#8217;s response out of concern that those phones might then be unlocked and shipped overseas to a country where the iPhone isn&#8217;t yet offered. In that scenario, AT&amp;T would be losing out on subscription revenue for phones it is selling at a subsidized price ranging from $199 to $299. The move may have been meant as a temporary measure.</p>
<p>Another potential explanation: some type of credit card fraud. According to payment processing firm CyberSource (CYBS), more than 1% of orders placed with merchants in the U.S. and Canada in 2008 later turned out to be fraudulent, and the rate of fraudulent orders was double that for consumer electronics products.&#8221;</p>
<p>As The Rock was predicting, Don’t stop “believing” Much ‘ado about nothing.  However one thing continues to be crystal clear, Apple’s iPhone, the state of the art device running on AT&amp;T, the nation’s fastest 3G network matters and is leading the industry.  When&#8217;s the last time anyone freaked out when a BB was not available to be sold online in a few zip codes for a few short hours?  The Rock says along with reality and truth consumers need to remember to think and to think big picture.</p>
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		<title>By: bluehorseshoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>bluehorseshoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 16:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t understand why you even post on this site, and even more so, how Robb continues to let you do so.  If it was once or twice that you post what you post, fine...but you do it over, and over, and over, etc.  It brings down the integrity of the site, as well as what you contribute.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t understand why you even post on this site, and even more so, how Robb continues to let you do so.  If it was once or twice that you post what you post, fine&#8230;but you do it over, and over, and over, etc.  It brings down the integrity of the site, as well as what you contribute.</p>
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		<title>By: The Rock</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Rock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;there is probably enough time for customer’s to complete a 2-year contract cycle before the 4G network is finished.&quot;

&quot;Verizon and Apple could make a killing on customers defecting from AT&amp;T and new customers.&quot;

&quot;I’m sure Apple has some early-out clause that they can exercise to get out of their exclusivity agreement with AT&amp;T.&quot;

The Rock says don&#039;t let personal desperation for a Apple’s iPhone, the state of the art device running on AT&amp;T’s state of the art communications network cloud your thinking or waste any time trying to think up mythical solutions of the Apple iPhone wasting it&#039;s time on cdma networks.  Although those are all sadly typical verizon cash grab, greed type actions, it will not magically fix another MAJOR drawback of obsolete cdma technologies problem of only being able to handle voice or data at one time which is something state of the art smartphones / hand sized computers like the Apple iPhone are designed to do.  Little red might try to again &quot;Shine it up real nice, turn it sideways, and stick it straight up your candy-ass!&quot; but thats not how Apple and the iPhone operate.   Buying a device designed for a obsolete, planned to be replaced cdma network, which doesn&#039;t allow global use will not make anyone who purchases this mythical device very happy.  Like most hardware makers, making a alternative device for what little cdma is left out there just doesn’t make sense. Apple has little to no reason to develop for a rapidly shrinking minority, closed non-global technology when the iPhone was designed for the majority of the communications networks around the globe.

Six smart, real, easy, cost effective steps for any current verizon or sprint to upgrade to Apple’s iPhone, the state of the art device running on AT&amp;T, the nation’s fastest 3G network which complements GSM global coverage for the new year 2010:

How to Switch to an iPhone
http://www.ehow.com/how_2104033_switch-iphone.html

&quot;The jabroni beating, pie eating, trail-blazin&#039;, eyebrow raisin&#039;, all around, smack it down People&#039;s Champ, The Rock!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;there is probably enough time for customer’s to complete a 2-year contract cycle before the 4G network is finished.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Verizon and Apple could make a killing on customers defecting from AT&amp;T and new customers.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;I’m sure Apple has some early-out clause that they can exercise to get out of their exclusivity agreement with AT&amp;T.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Rock says don&#8217;t let personal desperation for a Apple’s iPhone, the state of the art device running on AT&amp;T’s state of the art communications network cloud your thinking or waste any time trying to think up mythical solutions of the Apple iPhone wasting it&#8217;s time on cdma networks.  Although those are all sadly typical verizon cash grab, greed type actions, it will not magically fix another MAJOR drawback of obsolete cdma technologies problem of only being able to handle voice or data at one time which is something state of the art smartphones / hand sized computers like the Apple iPhone are designed to do.  Little red might try to again &#8220;Shine it up real nice, turn it sideways, and stick it straight up your candy-ass!&#8221; but thats not how Apple and the iPhone operate.   Buying a device designed for a obsolete, planned to be replaced cdma network, which doesn&#8217;t allow global use will not make anyone who purchases this mythical device very happy.  Like most hardware makers, making a alternative device for what little cdma is left out there just doesn’t make sense. Apple has little to no reason to develop for a rapidly shrinking minority, closed non-global technology when the iPhone was designed for the majority of the communications networks around the globe.</p>
<p>Six smart, real, easy, cost effective steps for any current verizon or sprint to upgrade to Apple’s iPhone, the state of the art device running on AT&amp;T, the nation’s fastest 3G network which complements GSM global coverage for the new year 2010:</p>
<p>How to Switch to an iPhone<br />
<a href="http://www.ehow.com/how_2104033_switch-iphone.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ehow.com/how_2104033_switch-iphone.html</a></p>
<p>&#8220;The jabroni beating, pie eating, trail-blazin&#8217;, eyebrow raisin&#8217;, all around, smack it down People&#8217;s Champ, The Rock!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: incommunicado</title>
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		<dc:creator>incommunicado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 01:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CDMA may reaching the end of its life, but it&#039;ll be a couple of years before the last nail is driven into the coffin. If a CDMA iPhone comes to Verizon in 2010, there is probably enough time for customer&#039;s to complete a 2-year contract cycle before the 4G network is finished. Verizon and Apple could make a killing on customers defecting from AT&amp;T and new customers. They can make a second killing on upgrades when the 4G network is in place. I&#039;m sure Apple has some early-out clause that they can exercise to get out of their exclusivity agreement with AT&amp;T.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CDMA may reaching the end of its life, but it&#8217;ll be a couple of years before the last nail is driven into the coffin. If a CDMA iPhone comes to Verizon in 2010, there is probably enough time for customer&#8217;s to complete a 2-year contract cycle before the 4G network is finished. Verizon and Apple could make a killing on customers defecting from AT&amp;T and new customers. They can make a second killing on upgrades when the 4G network is in place. I&#8217;m sure Apple has some early-out clause that they can exercise to get out of their exclusivity agreement with AT&amp;T.</p>
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		<title>By: bluehorseshoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>bluehorseshoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 23:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Rock, &quot;open, global GSM technology&quot; it really is (stressing &quot;open&quot;) now that the code has been leaked out on the internet to hack it.  So, is it really &quot;state of the art&quot; technology...still?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Rock, &#8220;open, global GSM technology&#8221; it really is (stressing &#8220;open&#8221;) now that the code has been leaked out on the internet to hack it.  So, is it really &#8220;state of the art&#8221; technology&#8230;still?</p>
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		<title>By: bluehorseshoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>bluehorseshoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 23:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG, he&#039;s about to spin off the planet.  This is classic.  Can someone actually make this sh*t up?

You go Rock!  The Waterford Crystal app is just another good reason why...I love your logic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG, he&#8217;s about to spin off the planet.  This is classic.  Can someone actually make this sh*t up?</p>
<p>You go Rock!  The Waterford Crystal app is just another good reason why&#8230;I love your logic.</p>
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